Saturday, October 3, 2020

Eljer toilets


Brand X. Notice the tight bend in the goose-neck curves around more than 180 degrees.

Picture if you will, logs racing down a stream.

Do the logs get jammed up in the straight-aways or the long gentle bends.

No, they get jammed up in the tight curves that bend back on themselves.

The earliest low-volume toilets simply took the 3.5 gallon-per-flush geometry and scaled it down. That meant that the inside curves were that much tighter.

The second generation replicated the 3.5 gallon-per-flush geometry except they used the same inside radii for the goose-neck rather than scaling down. 

An Eljer toilet as recommended by The Freeholder. Notice that the tightest part of the goose-neck is not as tight as the toilet in the first image and it is not a full 180 degrees.

Then somebody had the brilliant thought, "Since we know tight bends are an issue, why don't we design a goose-neck and trap that minimizes those bends?"

Mrs ERJ suggested we spent the little bit extra and buy the toilet The Freeholder recommended.


Being retired is a bit like being a toddler: Go, go, go, go, nap. "Hey, where is my bottle?"


  1. Don't forget to get the high seat toilet, perfect for us older folks.

    I haven't really started my retirement yet and already looking for excuses to get away from the house.

  2. I had more of an architectural limitation on my toilet purchase.
    I had an odd backset that left few choices for purchase.
    I think it's 14" and a standard is 12". That would leave a 2" gap behind the tank to the wall.
    One toilet was designed to have an adjustable backset by virtue of having a PVC gooseneck that was purchased separately to the backset dimension needed. It's design also intruded into the small bathroom space less than other designs. At the time, low flow toilets were all gimicky with accumulator tanks (I've seen accumulators rupture) and this was a simple wide mouth flapper and smooth flow. Fortunately that odd backset forced me to buy a better toilet.

    1. 12 inches at the back and 16 to 18 inches from a side wall. I did ADA compliance for work. Seat minimum of 18 inches in height and the handle on tank goes on open side of room. And 60 inch clearance in restroom.

    2. I am a crippled old fart and I hate the most is leaning to the left or right to do my business, why plumbers and contractors put the damn toilet tight to a wall is beyond sanity.

    3. Most restroom stalls are just 36 inches wide, except for handicap stalls, which are usually five feet wide. Unless a person is morbidly obese, 17 inches, the average, is plenty of room on either side. Even in handicap stalls the toilet is installed at a maximum of 18 inches from a side wall.

    4. 60" clearance is tough when many bathrooms are only as wide as their 5' bathtub.

    5. Those are for commercial applications. Unless you're building a house from the ground up, you won't have those clearances.

  3. I hope you took it for a test drive before buying it.

  4. Well, I certainly hope they work out for you as well as they have for us. I'd feel really...bad...if they didn't.


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