Mike Pence is quoted as saying that he did not think the plight of cities was his concern.
Why SHOULD the President of the United States be concerned about US cities?
"Helping" them enables them and they continue to double-down on their maladaptive remedies rather than facing reality.
Rather than cutting payrolls and rationalizing services offered, rather than paring back compensation packages to be more in line with that of their residents, they hold out their hands and demand that Uncle Sugar make-them-whole.
Constitutionally, the cities belong to the states and are not a Federal responsibility.
While factually correct, we have just seen a most egregious example of career suicide.
ReplyDeleteBeing a politician isn't supposed to be a career. Or so I'm told the founders thought.
DeleteAnd the "Rest of the Story" Mike Pence wants OUR Tax dollars and now troops in Europe as to protect Ukraine "Democracy".
ReplyDeleteWait for the flash.
ERJ, I agree with your assessment, but it could have been more elegantly phrased. Probably an unenforced error, but an error none the less.
ReplyDeleteIt damn well should be his concern.
ReplyDeleteTo ignore the role that big government and the regulatory state has played in driving jobs and industry away from the country as a whole is to ignore the elephant in the room.
The war on drugs and the welfare state at the federal level has in no small way enabled the blue cities to become what they have become.
And while we like to focus on the big blue city rot, a lot of cities without big blue problems have issues because of the state of the economy, high inflation curbing investment and the growth of regulations that Trump curbed.
All of those are federal issues.
To those who think the President as head of the executive and with all those rule making bodies need not be concerned with the downstream effect of those regulations, open your eyes and see the big picture.
You reversed the statement.
Delete"What is good for Microsoft is good for the country" is very different than "What is good for the country also benefits Microsoft."
So, Trump deleting regulations did nothing for the economy. Got it. All that good stuff and growth came from the local level, nothing federal at all. By extension, all the crap we are currently dealing with has nothing at all to do with Biden. Got it.
DeleteAlso, where did I saw what's good for MS is good for the country. Please point to where I mentioned big business at all. I didn't.
Just who do you think can deal with increased regulation better? MS, with an army of highly paid lawyers, or a small business on narrow margins? Who lobbies for these regulations? The small business on narrow margins, or big business with an army of lobbyists?
Big business loves regulation as it provides a significant barrier to entry for any possible competition. The classic "pull the ladder up behind you" stunt. All paid for by lobbyist dollars.
Small business are the lifeblood of any economy. Small business in the cities are very much impacted by issues at the Federal level. Small business in rural areas are impacted too.
EPA and Navigable Waterways is a great example of this. Now struck down, that should never have happened. How many family farms were victimized over that? Well, that happens in the cities too. All at the hand of agencies that are controlled by the executive, with the President at the head.
But apparently none of that matters.
So, I'll ask you a simple yes/no question. Are regulations at the federal level that stifle small business and defend large multinational corporations good or bad for individual liberty and the economy as a whole?
A rising tide lifts all boats. I agree that Trump showed us that the best way to improve everybody's lives, including or maybe especially minorities living in cities is to get out of their way and the way of businesses and let them work and create value.
DeleteCherry-picking winners and losers causes distortions that are very rarely "better" than what the free-market arrives at.
And before anybody starts screaming "Flint water" I want to point out that the Flint water system was run by public agencies that employed political flunkies who didn't know diddly-squat about water and had no desire to learn.
The position that Mike Pence is a great guy is getting pretty lonely. But as an indicator of how honest your election is, just watch. If Pence gets elected to anything, that was a rigged election.
ReplyDeleteYou might also notice how unpopular numerous other Republican stalwarts are among the base but who still get reelected.
I am not saying I am Mike Pence's buddy. Just that I don't think he deserves the heat he is getting over this issue.
DeletePence is a traitor to the country and should be shunned, not talked about and forgotten (or incarcerated, but that never happens to politicos that toe the company line)
ReplyDeleteWide open borders, they all go to cities. Fed or state problem.
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One of the phrases of the preamble to the constitution is, promote the general welfare. I think the president should be concerned about our cities, and help to "promote" their welfare. How to do that is a good question.
DeletePence is just the last gasp of the RNC Republican Elites trying to recapture their party from the voters. He disgraced himself by not doing all he could legally and constitutionally do to contest the 2020 election. The RNC Elites have spent at least the last 40 years failing to accomplish the things they promised their voters. Most of the time they didn't even try. They've shown little stomach for fighting and going head-to-head with the Far Left. They have failed, just like the early Union generals failed. It wasn't until Grant came along that the Union found a general that would fight.
ReplyDeleteAnd the voters need to purge these Elite from the party, or start a new party, or sit out the elections and let them all lose.
And none of that even begins to touch on his totally unacceptable and unsupportable view about our role in Ukraine. We don't need any more Forever Wars, particularly when they are just intended to keep the foreign aid corruption machine going for our politicians and to provoke an unneeded fight with the Russians to benefit the Davos/WEF crowd's strategy to gut the Russians for their natural resources after they destabilize them. If NATO is going to be used as a puppet for the Globalist Elites, we need to pull out of it.
I think you've got it wrong, Joe. The context is missing. Pence wasn't saying that cities 'aren't his priority', as if the fate of cities is none of his business (it'll likely be remembered this way). Pence was saying that the cities are a lower priority that our focus on supporting the Ukrainian War. I could almost defend the first context, but I cannot ever defend the latter one. I think he's dead wrong, either way, and that's why I don't think he has even a remote shot at winning.
ReplyDeleteI bow to those who listened to the entire interview.
Delete"Never get into an Asian land-war. But if you do have crystal-clear objectives and a robust exit plan."
Our involvement in Ukraine fails all three points.
I think Mike Pence has sealed his doom with the right. I won't vote for him. If Trump isn't the nominee I'm gonna be fishing on that particular Tuesday. Trump isn't the be all and end all, never could be. But there's no sense in voting for more of the same people that got us in this mess. And yes, Ron DeSantis is part of the establishment. Naval officer, lawyer and funded by billionaire donors...
DeletePence made a reply that was essentially a "freudian slip". He stated how he felt. That he doesn't give a rats ass about the cities and by extension America. He's a quisling RINO traitor who is most deserving of a long drop on a short rope, along with countless others just like him who are in positions of power, authority or public notoriety.
ReplyDeleteThere is no need to narrowly interpret Tucker's question as "helping the cities by giving them what they want." He was clearly asking whether Pence thought the conditions in America are more or less important than Ukraine. And Pence revealed himself by his answer.
ReplyDeletePence looked history in the eye and blinked. He should fade away. Roger
ReplyDeleteI think you got it wrong too, Joe. All the money and fame are not grifted from the Ukraine. U.S. cities are becoming shitholes where the law is some perverted version of the law of the past. Mike Pence reminds me of Hillary effin Clinton in that he is doing what is right to engorge his pocketbook, but ain't going to make it to the bigs. BOO HOO, He doesn't understand that we, the American People are not interested in Ukraine as we don't get any of the loot.
ReplyDeleteIf I never saw an image of Mike Pence again it would be too soon.
Milton
OOPS, money IS GRIFTED from the Ukraine.
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There is only one way to consider the 'Not Voting' option, if you're not a Democrat: 'Not Voting' is the same thing as voting Democrat. If you could never bring yourself to vote Democrat, then you should have the same sentiment if you're considering 'Not Voting' because you don't like the Republican candidate. You're not supposed to like them; liking them is a nice-to-have. If you're 'Not Voting' because you think this is some kind of protest, then consider this: What was stopping you from getting more involved?
ReplyDeleteSorry for the rant. Democrats depend on our unintentional gifts - they'll take all they can get, preferably against your will. Please don't feed them.
Not voting is the same as voting Democrat? Voting Republican is the same as voting Democrat, you're just voting for the slower train to Socialist Utopia.
DeleteI voted Republican for Ford, Regan, HWBush, WBush, McCain, Romney and Trump. All it got conservatives and America was a knife in the back.
DeleteI will vote communist before I vote Cuck!
What's your point, you prefer to get there faster?
DeleteThat's the crap answer the RNC Elites have been giving for decades. Clearly it hasn't given good results.
DeleteBetter we let the Left destroy the country quickly (and so obviously that they can't duck responsibility), so the quicker we can rebuild it afterwards.
That is preferable to being knifed from behind all the time.
errr, um, when I have access to the polling numbers in real time, and can create as many ballots as I need for "my guy" to "win" then I would consider participating.
DeleteBut I would still not bother voting.
Pence's response to Tucker s question, even taken fully in context, amounted to a gaffe. A gaffe is when a politician accidently tells the truth. In this particular case, the truth that he told was that the well-being of legacy America matters less to him than the well-being of Zelensky & Co.
ReplyDeleteHis response is already not playing well in Peoria. The Republican base already suspected Pence of being a disloyal POS. Now, with his own words, he has gone and proved it. He is officially toast, as he well should be.
George True
F Mike pence lets go brandon
ReplyDeleteBut neither is Ukraine. They are NOT our ally and it is not our war. There is nothing but downside for the u.s. in getting involved in that war.
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