Mrs ERJ and I had brunch with Pelee, our oldest son.
During the course of the conversation he informed us that he had been playing with AI. One of the examples he gave was that he asked one of the AI platforms to tell him which states were optimal for surviving the Apocalypse. It spit out a list that looked something like this:
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| Low numbers good. Larger numbers bad. |
Michigan was in the middle of the pack with 430
Of course there is a lack of granularity in "state" sized ratings. There might be some horrible places to be in Washington or Oregon during the apocalypse and there are probably some great places to be in Louisiana and Mississippi during the apocalypse (especially if you have family there).
Lifting update: 6 reps 135 raw. 6 reps 205 raw. Four more sets of 6 reps 205 with straps for a total of 6960 pounds. Then I "ran" on the treadmill for half an hour.
Did the AI show it's work/logic on the ratings?
ReplyDeleteInfectious disease(s) triggers US civil collapse.
DeleteLivingston, Montana would be a good place, unless the apocalypse was caused by an eruption in the Yellowstone Caldera.
ReplyDeleteThere is no one-best-place because a fragile society can be collapsed by any number of triggers.
DeleteCan he/you show the whole list, would like to know how Arizona rates.
ReplyDeleteSigh!
Deletehttps://www.cdc.gov/sti-statistics/data-vis/table-ct-state-ranked.html
The metric correlates at +0.7 with (percent African-American + percent Native-American). Of course, that makes it racist. It also tanks states like South Dakota, Arizona, New Mexico and Oklahoma.
You had to have known that someone would ask what we all were wondering.
DeleteTo err is human, to really screw up requires a computer.
ReplyDeleteOr as the old circuit guys used to say GIGO
Garbage In Garbage Out.
AI only operates on what it was programmed with.
Maybe Frank Herberts Dune had it right:
"We must negate the machines-that-think. Humans must set their own guidelines. This is not something machines can do. Reasoning depends upon programming, not on hardware, and we are the ultimate program! Our Jihad is a "dump program." We dump the things which destroy us as humans!"
― Minister-companion of the Jihad[src]
The Butlerian Jihad, also known as the Great Revolt as well as commonly shortened to the Jihad, was the crusade against computers, thinking machines, and conscious robots that began in 201 B.G. and concluded in 108 B.G.[1]
I think it depends far more on your individual location than your state, though your state will be a help or a hindrance.
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Excluding Washington D.C., if you have family and roots and a tradition of self-reliance, I think every state offers "survivable" enclaves in the event of most scenarios.
DeleteIf you are a refugee. If you have nothing to offer. If you have "a reputation", even the most salubrious environment will not save you.
This may be apocryphal, but the story goes that a Learned Englishman in the 1930's seeing war once again raising it's ugly head over Europe, decided to take his wife ,children and self far away from the horrors of war. He selected an idyllic tropical island, far from civilization, a place few had ever heard of.
ReplyDeleteIt was called "Guadalcanal".
I'm not 'sure' about those ratings...
ReplyDeleteThe best survival location would depend greatly on what form the Apocalypse manifested itself.
ReplyDeleteI think there are some commonalities worth noting.
DeleteHaving neighbors who you can (probably) count on to not actively sabotage your chances.
Having space. Space equals time and space equals opportunities.
Having local resources so you don't have to sally forth into harms way for every drop of water and calorie of food and stick of firewood.
Hmm. A little East of Paris?
DeleteA little East of Paris
I'm surprised at so many northern-climate regions listed so high?
ReplyDeleteMy growing season in TN is twice what it was in NY.... You'd think that'd rank higher in the factoring, since we're talking about food? The top 3 are very cold and inhospitable in winter, a solid 3 months of that in fact, 1/4 of the year? Nothing grows and everything is covered in snow...
The entire list looks north of the Mason Dixon?
I smell a programming bias!
I've tried 7 different ways to find anything resembling your graph and get chlamydia, sepsis, Sudan, migrant hosts. Google has this - Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, Maine, and Alaska would likely have the best chance best chance in an apocalypse due to their low population density, large tracts of land for farming and foraging, and access to natural resources like fresh water.
ReplyDeleteThis shows the limitations of AI - it's only as good as the programming and data set. In a civil collapse, you want to be away from the population centers. New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine are too close to the 20 million NYC and 5 million Bostonians. Being a refugee sucks, but being where refugees flee to is almost as bad.
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