Wednesday, March 2, 2022

Georgia offers to send Abrams Tank to Ukraine

 

On a more serious note



I am trying to sniff out propaganda. There are many images of "40 mile long convoy of Russian/Belorussian artillery" in transit.

I am not a military guy nor I am the sharpest pencil in the drawer, but this looks more like images of a training exercise than the transfer of weapons and ordinance in a war-zone. Any aircraft with the capabilities of the Republic P-47 Thunderbolt (first flight May 6, 1941) would make the road impassible and shred large amounts of material.

A ZPU 14.5mm machine gun could almost do the same.

I know there are stupid people everywhere. The Egyptians lined up their aircraft in tidy rows which made it easy for Israel to strafe them with minimal input to the stick.

What do the "armor" guys say? Is this in accordance with Soviet/Russian battle doctrine? Is this a stupid convoy master? Or are these photos repurposed from stock images of peace-time convoys?

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  1. If true, and if I were a Ukrainian combat commander, I'd detail a dozen Javelin crews to immobilize the first couple of components of that conga line, the last (ditto), and couple dozen fire teams to protect my Javelin teams. Shoot, scoot, shoot again, somewhere else, rinse, repeat.

    Then, it's time to go shopping.

    Unless, it's bullshit. In that case, never mind....

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    1. Mortars could work too. And the ammo is far easier to replace than Javelin missiles.

      Seeing them lined up like ducks in a shooting gallery just seems too staged.

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    2. You can bet that whatever you're hearing in the news is the polar opposite of the truth. I would suggest that down is actually up, if they said it wasn't.

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    3. https://voxday.net/2022/03/03/the-lies-never-stop/

      I started reading Vox when he had the scoop on some rona matters. He is quite strongly opinionated about things, to the point of seeming arrogant, but makes excellent and highly logogical arguments. That are often proven true. I see why he is so strongly confident in his conclusions.

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    4. Much of the time Day is a good read, until he gets on his inevitable boomer rant.

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  2. Yep, you're right. And, more mortar rounds per unit volume: perhaps per (dozen) pound(s), I suspect.

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  3. No one with any familiarity with any sort of armored tactical doctrine would allow such backups. Not that they couldn't happen, but it wouldn't be on purpose. My two questions when I seeing these pictures are

    A)Where/When were they really taken? Is there a geotag on any of them? Because I'm questioning the accuracy of the story that is supposedly told by the pictures.

    B) The Ukrainians are touted as being rather well organized and making the Russian pay a high price for their visit. The phrase "target rich environment" doesn't quite cover this. This is Highway of Death stuff, just before Death. Except there is no death. Why? Because these are from some place/time other than current? Are the Ukrainians out of ammo? Not able to get to the right place to lay on the hurt?

    Truth is always the first casualty of war, and this war has demonstrated that in spades. Having watched for a week, I'm beginning to feel that us little people actually know less than zero. Lies within lies and wheels within wheels. The possibility that we're getting played is looming larger in my eyes by the hour.

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  4. Pictures don't look like winter to me.---ken

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    1. The green of the grass appears more saturated than late-Feb or very-early March in a continental climate.

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  5. I'm generally not buying anything I'm being told by any government official about this.

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  6. It's coming off a current commercial satellite. No idea why they stopped, as it's stupid as hell!

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  7. 5 guys. 2 shooters, 3 for security. Shoot, shoot, shoot, scoot. Rinse/repeat from another location a few tens of minutes later. Good shooters can hit from 700+ yards away...... I can, and I'm not the best shot I know, nor do I shoot every day.

    If those guys in the convoy wanted to survive, they'd have to hide under the trucks.

    If, of course, the story about the convoy is real.

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    1. Assuming there is any truth to this (which I doubt)...
      One hyperbaric bomb .... your teams are flattened goo.
      The Russian have air cover.

      People who think they see the easy way to do something ... the easy way is mined.

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    2. Good point. If a schlub like me can see the Ukrainian opportunity here, so, too, can any Russian with eyes.

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  8. One pass with cluster bombs and that convoy ceases to move ever again.

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    1. I thought the same, but Ukrainian air power seems to be done. If it is and the locations and dates described are accurate, it would explain why the Russians are allowing those CFs to develop. They don't have to worry about aerial attacks, just from the ground. Aggressive patrolling would keep that at a minimum.

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  9. Found this channel last night. Guy is far more current than I am. He's got some interesting things to say. I don't like them, but I have to grant that he may well know more than I do.

    YouTube-Task and Purpose: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSq3p5NKEtyp5Rjd4ctiEbg

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  10. Unless you see it directly with your own bare eyeballs, it is questionable at best. As with the virus fiasco, same with the ukraine, I don't believe any of it. Got enough to deal with right here in my own compound and I believe most other sane people do too.

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  11. Looks to me that one is taken in late fall/early winter or early spring and the first is summer or early fall. two different photos. If the Ukraine AF was flying and this was an actual event it would be a smoking column of wreckage.

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