In spite of conservative's fears of blue-helmeted thugs going door-to-door to collect tools needed for self-sufficiency and for self-defense, I DON'T think that is what the Progressive's most common implementation of Martial Law will look like.
May I humbly submit that we saw Progressive, Martial Law in the recent past. One definition of Martial Law reads:
The law imposed on an occupied territory by occupying military forces.
The Antifa camps in Portland and other cities and the pro-Palestinian occupations of college campuses this past year were arguably Martial-Law administered by Progressive proxies.
Not convinced? Military and law enforcement personnel are allowed a great deal of latitude and vastly diminished accountability during Martial-Law. Civil rights like freedom of passage and freedom from search-and-seizure are suspended. There are very few checks-and-balances on their actions and they can act with near-impunity. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
From the Progressive perspective, those adventures worked great and had very little blow-back and I would expect them to double-down.
Joe, I seriously wonder if you know just what you’re dealing with here. Martial law? Ye gods, man! Every time those guys turn around, they are telling you in English, with no room to misinterpret what they intend. They hate you, they want to kill you and take all your shite. How much proof do people need to see?
ReplyDeleteHistorically when these types get revved up, the death toll goes into the millions. That is how these guys roll. There will be no prepping, no escape to the country to plant gardens and live off the land. Food is a political weapon these guys used to execute entire generations and communities. First they impose mass impoverishment (they’re doing that now), and then the starvation and famines start. If you have food, money, weapons or anything they can use, they’ll take it from you. If they can’t make you submit they’ll go after your wife and kids.
Once they’re finished with the likes of you - then they start culling and purging their own useful idiots - that are no longer useful. Stolen elections? Pozzed, corrupt institutions and managerial class…? These guys are just getting started. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
It’s too late now to voat your way out.
Don't forget that the news emphasized the areas that local government let progressives get away with murder and worse.
ReplyDeleteThere were a bunch of jurisdictions where they didn't get away with anything that didn't make the news - to me, this represents more of the country than the relatively few high profile places that made the news.
Jonathan
"God bless Texas"
DeleteMartial law works on the population if they stay in a defensive position. It ends when they go on offense. I cannot stress this enough.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. In the US it has only been used for short times in relatively small areas that can be flooded with troops and equipment.
DeleteIn other countries, it or similar activities have worked on unarmed people used to being abused. An example here is the Holomodur in Ukraine.
We already seeing push back against police raids; if something like this is tried, in most of the country it would escalate fast.
I suspicion is that it would be done first in more permissive areas, like the Bay area, Boston, etc so those doing it have a successful precedent at the beginning.
Jonathan
Correct. The tin-starred lackeys have some choices to make in the near future. For all our sake, I hope they err on the side of their oath. If not? Well, ya can't save people from themselves.
DeleteWasn't this bad even in the Nixon/Vietnam era
ReplyDeleteI think some folks envision the coming conflict to be against organizations you can see and attack. How about "they" never get any closer to you than a letter in your mailbox telling you to turn in your guns/ vehicles, whatever by a certain time. You don't comply then your pension doesn't get deposited, nor does your social security or any other funds that are transmitted electronically. your bank accounts are frozen. All of a sudden your medical insurance is gone. You are tough and independent and don't budge. Next letter explains how your kids and their families will experience the same government love if you don't comply. If they are smart they will get us loaded into box cars without ever facing us. Another thought tax rates based on our social score. There aren't many of us who can take our whole life off grid to avoid governmental coercion.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's a tough nut to crack. I fret about this kind of stuff also, and there are probably even more insidious versions than what you're talking about.
DeleteI can suggest at least two things to revisit and consider against Leviathan just disconnecting you from your bank accounts and everything else.
1) watch Schindler's List or some movie about the Holocaust, Schindler's List is a good one to watch because it's so graphic
2) read or re-read Unintended Consequences.
Think of that famous Solzhenitsyn quote about how they burned in the camps later, thinking about what they might have been able to do to resist with household items before being packed away one house at a time.
I would hope John Ross' idea of everyone doing ... something, against available targets, will in the end prevail.
Tsgt Joe,
DeleteWhile that can, and has, happened in some situations, it isn't something that can be widely used without the country falling apart - for example, doing it to 100+ million gun owners is shutting down at least 1/3rd of the country.
I see it more likely that there will be a series of small bites gradually reducing options and raising costs. The courts are so far making it more difficult, but that won't stop them, unfortunately.
Jonathan
The lack of spaces where shooting can occur along with habitat loss is hurting hunting and hiking a lot. When I was a kid, at least half of my male classmates had gone hunting at least once during the previous year. Now - not even a blip on the radar. It is much harder nowadays to find a place to hunt unless you have friends or family with access to land.
DeleteI think the Government will reach out to military veterans to join their side. Veterans are used to idea of being ordered to take actions against citizens (though not of THEIR country) but steady employment and other 'added amenities' may convince some to join the Dark Side. Their families have to eat too and the pressure to provide this could be irresistible.