---A continuation of the conversation between Professor Jana and Bob the Bus-boy (and owner of the truck-stop)---
“But don’t you think” Jana pressed “that business owners have a responsibility to their employees?”
“Yes, of course businesses have responsibilities toward their employees” Bob replied.
“Then why don’t you pay them a living-wage? How can you justify firing them from their job when they need that money?” Jana challenged him.
“Whoa, there. You are tangling up a lot of questions there” Bob said, holding out his hands as if to stop her.
“First of all, it isn’t “...the employee’s job…” “ Bob said. “It is work that I hired the employee to perform. If he does not do the work or if he causes other problems then I have to let him go.”
“You mean you fire him” Jana said, combatively.
“You know, I am not out here wiping tables because I enjoy doing it. I am out here because I had to let the bus-boy go today. You wanna know why I let him go? It was not because I enjoy wiping down tables” Bob asked
Jana nodded her head vigorously. She was very interested in hearing why Bob had fired the young bus-boy.
“I had the bathroom stalls repainted last week. The corporation who leases me the franchise is very, very big on having the restrooms what they call “sterile”. Being a truck-stop, most of our customers use the restrooms and corporate found out that customers pay a lot of attention to them” he said.
“So?” Jana said.
“The young man I let go took his break and went into the restroom and marked up one of the stalls with a Sharpie. Right after I paid $2000 to have the six stalls painted” Bob said.
“When I asked him about it, he not only told me he did it but told me that it was his right to express himself” he said.
“SO you fired him!” Jana said, emphatically.
“No. He fired himself” Bob said. “I told him that I was going to dock his pay to cover the cost of repainting that stall. He asked how much that was going to be and I told him $300. He called me every name in the book and stormed out. I might add that he took his uniform and his apron with him...another $150 out of my pocket.”
“If it cost you so much to fire him, then why did you do it?” Jana asked, mystified.
“I. Didn’t. Fire. Him. He quit” Bob reiterated.
“Look, when a customer goes into a restaurant they have certain expectations. They expect to be greeted. They expect to be served in a reasonable amount of time. They expect wholesome food at a fair price. They expect to not get shot or mugged. Right?” Bob asked.
“Of course” Jana said with a shake of her head. “You don’t have to explain this to me like I am a kid in grade-school.”
Bob thought that was EXACTLY the way she needed to have it explained to her.
“When you go into a bathroom, you might not recognize gang-symbols but you definitely recognize the graffiti as territorial markings, right?” he said.
“I suppose” Jana admitted in a lukewarm tone.
“Another thing is that fathers sometimes travel with their daughters. They might decide to take their daughters into the men’s room because of safety concerns. Would you take your daughter into a restroom with explicit drawings of male genitals on the walls?” Bob asked.
“Well, no” Jana admitted with more vehemence.
“So this is a truck-stop, not some grungy, college pub. Customers have different expectations. I might have kept the young man if he had admitted his error but he doubled down. He was defiant. I would never be able to trust him after that.” Bob said.
“But he probably needed that job” Jana circled back to her original argument.
Bob shrugged his shoulders. “He sure didn’t act like he wanted it very bad. He was acting like being the alpha-dog was more important to him than his pay-check.”
“You could have trained him” Jana said.
Bob cocked his head, quizzically. “This kid was a sophomore at the college. He had been in school for, what...15 years…, and the professional educators haven’t been able to teach him. Why do you think I will be able to do it. I have a hundred other things to do every day other than holding his hand and teaching him values that he should have learned in Kindergarten and that should have been reinforced every year after that.”
“I don’t have a degree in teaching. My job is to make happy customers, not be a social engineer trying to fix education’s failures.” Bob was getting a little bit hot.
“And it really isn’t a matter of training, is it?” he asked.
“Everybody knows that destroying property is ‘wrong’” Bob continued. “The problems is that a lot of folks don’t want to behave. They think being able to do any-damned-thing-they-feel-like is far more important than serving customers and collecting a pay-check.”
“I bet you have a hard time finding employees” Jana said, slightly snidely.
“I hire lots of people. And I let lots of people go. I will not tolerate vandalism, theft, excessive absenteeism or my workers using their smartphones when they are on-the-clock” Bob said.
“The people who stay-on as employees LOVE working here. They are proud of being part of a crew that excels. They like knowing that if they are scheduled to be off at a certain time then the person who is scheduled to be here WILL BE HERE, on-time and ready to work before they leave.”
“They appreciate that their coworkers all pull their fair share and in general, they are all cheerful people who are a joy to have around” Bob said.
“No smart-phones? How’s that working out for you?” Jana asked. Having taught at the college level, it was inconceivable to her that any business could stay afloat if they didn’t let their workers fiddle with their phones.
“I lose a lot of workers in their first week” Bob admitted. “But I tell them that I give them eight-hours of work for an eight-hour shift and if they are on their phones then they are either not doing their jobs or I screwed up and need to give them more work.”
“But surely they have dead-time…” Jana wondered.
“They have breaks when they can go to the break-room and use their phones or eat their free-lunch.” Bob said.
“What is the longest you ever had to wait before a waitress came over to your table?” Bob asked.
“I don’t know. Maybe five or ten minutes.” Jana replied. She had never really thought about it.
One of the other women piped up “I once had to wait 45 minutes but it was at a real busy bar.”
“How long ago was that?” Bob asked, looking at the woman who had waited 45 minutes.
“Maybe last spring” she replied.
“Is the bar still in business?” Bob asked.
“I dunno. Lemme look” she said, whipping out her smartphone.
“Yes they are but they have a different name” she said after thirty seconds.
“That means there is another bar in that building but the business that left you dangling for 45 minutes went out of business” Bob gently informed her.
Looking over at Jana, Bob could not resist asking "How many employees is that business supporting now?"
Jana leapt to the defense of the business. “Well, the rent in that part of town is really high and it was competing in a very competitive industry.”
Bob slowly spun in place, looking at the dining room. “I also compete in that very competitive industry and I have been in business for almost 40 years and I never went bankrupt.”
“Customers who stop to eat in a truck stop are usually traveling. They have schedules to keep. They might be driving long into the night when they will be tired” Bob said.
“My wife trains the waitresses to be watching folks from the instant they come through the door. They wait for them to take off their coats and for everybody to get seated. Then they are expected to walk over with a full pot of coffee and greet our new customers and to point out the menus and to take their drink-orders.”
“Then they are expected to go back to the table when half of the diners have put down their menus.”
“If you look at their station, you will see that they have little hour-glasses used for egg-timers. They flip that over after they deliver the food and are expected to check on their customers when it plays-out after two minutes. Either that, or they can watch the table and go back after the last person takes their first bite” Bob said.
“They can’t do any of that if they are playing on their phones. It only takes them a couple of weeks before they realize that they get much better tips when they are concentrating on making our customers happy rather than thinking about snappy-comebacks on Teeter-totter" Bob said. "Waitress or waiter means they are WAITING for the customer rather then the customer waiting for the service."
“Why are you talking about the waitresses? You failed in your responsibilities to the bus-boy” Jana said in disbelief.
Bob was just about at the end of his patience. "Because it all ties together. The tips my waitresses count on will suffer if the restrooms look like a pig-sty. I have more than a dozen waitresses on the payroll. What about my obligations to them? What about my responsibilities to our customers? They put down their hard-earned money. Don't I have a moral obligation to feed the hungry?"
"Are you retired?" Bob asked, seemingly out of the blue.
"Well, yes" Jana responded, taken aback by what she saw as a personal question.
"Do you get a pension?" Bob asked.
"Yes. But why is it any of your business" Jana replied, somewhat tartly.
"Because your pension probably owns stock in the corporation that I lease the franchise from. Since you object to what I have to do to make a profit, why don't you send that portion of your pension back to the Fund Manager?" Bob suggested.
"In fact, since you seem to object to any corporation making a profit, you should probably figure out how much of the pension fund's returns are generated by stocks in public companies and return all of that"
Jana waffled. "I am really not a math person..."
"Let me help you out. For most of the last five years, T-bills yielded about 2% while the overall portfolios averaged about 6%. That means that two-thirds of your pension check came from publicly traded companies. If you really object to companies making a profit and will put your money where your mouth is, then you will mail two-thirds of your pension check back to the fund manager" Bob said, emphatically.
Then he turned and walked away before he said something that he would regret.
***
I felt a few twinges of regret as I had Jana go full-retard.
Obviously, she is a smart person.
Just as obviously, in real life, all folks have their personal blind-spots. They will have some pet-theory that they are sure will solve ALL of the world's problems if only others would get on-board.
The issue is that the person cannot see the secondary and tertiary effects because they WANT the simple, obvious (to them) solution to work. "If only (somebody else) would change..."
Those seem to be the people who fall into endless-loop mode.
Thank you - that had a LOT of new information to process. I've always been an employee with non-managerial duties (i.e. do what you are told) so am hearing this out loud for the first time.
ReplyDeleteMake for a good high school course (how to keep and hold a job) so the student has an idea what is expected of them. My wife works in concessions at a nearby sports arena and works with fellow employees who simply stand and wait around, staring at their phone until their manager tells them a task to do. No pick up a broom /mop and clean counter surfaces automatically tendencies. No move and get food items staged.
Nearly every place I have ever worked had a guy/gal who was a source of misery and friction. They were a pebble in the shoe of everybody else on the crew.
Delete"Bob" figured out that it was a motivation problem (want to get along) that he was not in a position to fix. So he never let people like that sink roots. As soon as they showed their colors he helped them out the door.
After losing enough jobs, the nasty person sees the light and becomes motivated to not be a source of friction. Or maybe not. But at least they are not poisoning the efforts of everybody else who IS trying to do their jobs and get along.
Employees also don't often realize the wage they GET it, is matched (or more) in the unemployment taxes, employee taxes, health package and such.
ReplyDeleteI'm not surprised Jana is retired and unable to do math. Most busybodies are.
Nothing new under the sun:
Proverbs 16:27-29
Living Bible
27 Idle hands are the devil’s workshop; idle lips are his mouthpiece.[a]
28 An evil man sows strife; gossip separates the best of friends.
29 Wickedness loves company—and leads others into sin.[b]
2nd Thessalonians 3:
6 But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which [a]he received from us. 7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you; 8 nor did we eat anyone’s bread [b]free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, 9 not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us.
10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. 12 Now those who are such we command and [c]exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
My brother (who is liberal FYI) is fond of saying "If you treat employees like owners you will build a great business and make lots of money your self.
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing is he doesn't realize that most of his liberal theories don't represent this mind set
It seems to be inevitable that humans choose to live in echo-chambers. We like hanging out with people we see as our tribes. Gross simplifications get repeated as truths to the point where it becomes almost impossible to examine those beliefs rationally because it threatens our membership in our tribe.
DeleteJana's echoes are "All businessmen are rich. They are rich because they are heartless and greedy. Obstinate people can be "loved" into goodness."
It is much harder to see Bob's echoes because he is closer to how I see myself. "Everybody can better themselves through effort. Everybody can contribute SOMETHING to an enterprise. My business is a life-boat."
Each one of the truck stop employees (that stay there) are "buying into the concept that they make money by taking ownership of their table or each plate of food or each bathroom they are responsible for.
ReplyDeleteHappy New year Joe. Great job you do. Woody
ReplyDeleteIt isn't at all obvious that Jana is smart. She "thinks" with her emotions, seems incredibly ignorant about how the world operates, and seems to not understand that everything has a cost. For an adult that isn't smart, that is about the intelligence of a 4-year old. She may be highly trained in her area of expertise, but that isn't smart.
ReplyDeleteAnd a retired college professor? Had to be in liberal arts. Do college professors get pensions anymore? I thought most got 403(b) plans now, not pensions. But maybe both. And a lot of public school teachers don't pay into social security, so are ineligible to claim benefits on retirement.
"According to the National Association of State Retirement Administrators, about 40% of public school teachers do not pay into the Social Security system."
She is smart by the standards of the environment she has spent most of her time in - she knows how to do navigate it and do well in it.
DeleteThat doesn't mean she is smart by other standards or in unconnected areas.
Jonathan
"Smart" is really not a relative measurement. It requires being smart across a spectrum of important categories that improve survival under many different conditions. She ain't got it.
DeleteWent to Australia in '07 with dad tor a hunting vacation. They had a long running problem with first time employees just as you described. The new workers couldn't seem to keep a job. The "obvious" solution was for the government to fix it. So they passed a law that required employers to keep a new employee on for one full year. "Surely this will give employers the incentive to mentor and train their new and young employees."
ReplyDelete"Stop calling me Shirley" said employer's across the land. Hiring of first time employees plummeted. Only extremely well vetted individuals got hired. You might hire the kid of a long time employee for example but never even look at a resume sent to you.
Funny as heck watching the gov and press pretending they were baffled when everybody I talked to knew what was what.
3 side thoughts about Australia: Everybody I met there was nice, no one could explain why the light switches were upside down, and the ONLY fat people I saw were Americans.
I echo your last thought. Went to Israel a few years ago. The only fat people were, again, Americans.
DeleteI'm sure glad we sold our business and don't have to deal with employees anymore. My friends that do are not a happy bunch like most business owners used to be. Ayn Rand sure saw this coming.---ken
ReplyDeleteHappy New year and All the Best for 2024, Joe and family !
ReplyDelete(I think you might have meant to say 'Whoa, there', but maybe 'Woe, there' is better !)
- Aggie
Thanks. Fixed it.
DeleteYour echo chamber comment is perfect. We had some comments the other day at church, and I couldn't believe the content. Stuff that had been put to rest decades ago. Oh well. It's good to be able to explain your position and understanding to a group sometimes.
ReplyDeleteAnd the "Gross Simplification" of history has just about worn me out. The more I read about well known events, the more complexity I find. Nothing seems to be as simple as I remember in history class. Trying to discuss with the GS types has become very tiresome.
Merry New Year!
ERJ, one can be "educated" smart and oblivious to a lot of things about how the world actually works (to be fair, I probably often fall into this category).
ReplyDeleteIn a way, it really does represent a certain sort of intellectual elitism that such a mindset claims to be against: they depend upon services that they simply assume are always in place, without understanding everything that goes into that service. In that sense, "the system" exists to serve them.
To the comment about fund managers and returning profits, I have had the same discussion about taxes. When people argue that folks are not paying their fair share, I point out that the individual has the ability to pay into a fund to help pay down the Federal debt. They can do it without waiting for any other action to take place. No-one ever believes they are not taxed fairly (usually "too much"), just those vague "other people".
I do not hit much of the mindset at all that Jana demonstrates as a humble produce clerk. I do wonder though if it is a function of the demographic we serve: if it was a higher end demographic, would I see elements of that kind of elitism?
Too bad Bob didn't call the cops and have the little shit arrested for vandalism. His name is now mud in the community and his parent(s) will be getting the side-eye too.
ReplyDeleteWith Jana, this is a dmosnstration of the saying "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is."
ReplyDeleteShe has worked out a theory that fits her world view but in the real, where the rubber meets the road, world, her theory is deeply flawed.
Phil B
In this example of life Jana is NOT smart. Jana is pseudo smart. A person who BELIEVES they know things but in reality doesn't. And every year we get more an more parasites just like Jana.
ReplyDeleteSo, is it a felony or merely a misdemeanor, to extend the hand of friendship that may contain a folded note of Thanksgiving, upon receipt of the gift of a corn-fed doe?
ReplyDeleteAsking for a friend, who lives
A little east of Paris ...
It is neither prior to being convicted in a legal court of law...It is an allegation.
DeleteAnd if neither of the two parties are blabber-mouths, it is not even that.
In reference to the post about deer and CWD, the number of deer that need to be "distributed" are several thousand per county. That creates an enormous trail of evidence.
Having worked in higher ed (Not as an educator!) I can assure the assembled that the Jana-type is over-represented. I'm glad I'm retired. I'd have died of a stroke or heart attack long before now. Higher ed violently lives in its own bubble.
ReplyDeleteI am a retired teacher (science), and if I had a dollar for every Jana I'd met in schools, I'd be able to fund a Carnival cruise!
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