Thursday, May 29, 2025

From the comments

From the comments on the post about White, South African farmers being fast-tracked for legal immigration to the US:

(My objection to Trump's Administration fast-tracking White, South African farmers) Has nothing to do with the risk to SA farmers which is tenable given the exploitive history they created but the hypocrisy of the Trump regime trying to have it both ways does.  Laying out the carpet for white farmers and  excluding others sends a clear message while mouthing that the policy is non discriminatory is hilarious.  

I agree with Lucas on this point. Very bad optics.

Based on the collapse of Rhodesia and what recently happened in Afghanistan, we can speculate with very high certainty that the Blacks who worked for the White farmers are/were targeted as "collaborators". Lacking the resources of the farmers, they were even easier targets to rape and exterminate.

The motivation for the Blacks who worked for the White farmers is pretty simple. They were treated well and often supplied with on-farm housing. They were paid more than the prevailing wages. The White farmers employed them during slack-times for on-farm infrastructure improvements. The Black employees could learn modern farming techniques and the fundamentals of fertilizing and disease prevention and scientific breeding.

The motives of the Blacks evicting/murdering the Whites and their Black "collaborators" was pretty simple. Dead people cannot push back.

It is deeply immoral and fundamentally wrong to abandon one's allies and "locals" who assisted you.

I am not sure all of the blame can be laid at the feet of Trump. Consider the difficulties in identifying surviving "collaborators". Consider the logistics of getting them documentation (especially if the country's political structure is deeply hostile towards them). Where is the money for the plane tickets for the families of the "collaborators" going to come from? All of these complications may have stymied any of the "collaborators" being in the first wave of South African farmers to come to the US. 

Bonus images

Zimbabwe maze production per ha

 
U.S. corn yield over a similar time period.
Look at the trends. The graphs are in different units so they are not an apples-to-apples comparison.

15 comments:

  1. The USA corn yield chart is amazing, and disturbing at the same time.

    What genetic modifications have been done to the corn, and what are the side effects?

    How different is the nutritive value of the corn, from when God and early man cooperated to create Maize?

    What chemicals have been added to the soil over that 29 year chart and in the subsequent 16 years?

    Autism, allergies, ADHD, and the rest of the list of childhood maladies... Generated by or influenced by what we eat?

    My questions, not RFK's but he inspires those questions.

    That scares the hell out of me, since we cannot trust .GOV or Monsanto to do anything except increase power and profits...

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  2. How much of that corn is subsidized and destined to be turned into alcohol for gasoline? That whole program needs taken apart.

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  3. We are all Rhodesia now.

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  4. Ughhh. Optics? Funny how this works. 20 million people including illiterates, criminals and people with physical and mental illness swarm over the border for 4 years and and now the guys responsible for that are ever so deeply concerned about the optics of 59 legitimate white refugees?

    From out here in the outhouse, this looks like just another internet idiot with Blumpf Derangement Syndrome. Maybe I need new glasses?
    🤓

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  5. I think that Mr. Machias’s comment misses the point. Blacks in SA are not holding huge rallies, lead by major political leaders, calling for the extermination of other blacks, not even the ones fortunate enough to work on the farms seized from the whites. Just a brief amount of research would reveal that the Boers/whites are explicit targets of that murderous intent. Sure, one might say they deserve it for whatever reason, but the fact remains that white people are being targeted because of their race and the government encourages it. Our asylum policy has overwhelmingly favored non-whites since, oh, about 1965. If region of origin is a proxy for race, European asylum grants are negligible. Everyone’s hair catches fire when calls for genocide against whites spur the Trump administration to acknowledge that whites may actually need to escape horror as well as blacks from the rest of squalid Africa. I for one am glad Trump had the courage to do it.

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    1. I am also glad that Trump's team had the courage to save the ones they can, optics be damned.

      If you wait for the chronic hand-wringers to be happy, nothing will ever happen.

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  6. "SA farmers which is tenable given the exploitive history they created" Hold on, are you saying those 59 individuals created Apartheid?

    Or are you saying that they share race-guilt because some other Boers (mainly trade unionists rather than farmers, as it happens) created Apartheid?

    Arguments like that latter one are usually classified as racism.

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    1. You have to read the string of comments. Lucas must have been rushed. He usually is much clearer when he writes.

      The part you quoted was in reference to my postulating that the original rebuttal to the post was in denial that the White farmers were targets of genocide. The quoted part is maybe a little bit awkward but he admits that it is likely to be happening.

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  7. Then there are stories of those Boer farmer (collaborators/employees) turning on the farm owners and killing them. Those are stories from several years ago. I don't believe these are the first farmers coming here for asylum either.
    sam

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    1. I read some of those accounts too. I think many of them may have acted on threats of violence, i.e. the outside goons had invaded their homes and were holding their loved-ones as hostages.

      "OK, Buckwheat, you know the codes to get into the compound. Either come with us or we start whittling Matilda into gyro meat."

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  8. I don't think we have 'enough' details to actually discuss the issues. This is yet another divide and 'conquer' move by the MSM and others...

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  9. The smallest amount of studying history would show the Zulu tribe were as bloodthirsty and imperial as the English and Dutch in the development of South Africa. Someone call the Bantu tribe for comment

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  10. After seeing "the previous administration" actually aiding and abetting the influx of MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of ILLEGAL ALIENS under the guise of "asylum" (TREASON), quantifying "very bad optics" would be very hard to do. We should NOT be accepting ANY refugees that can't be vetted as actually BEING refugees. That being said, I'm not sure why the USA is ALWAYS the final destination of "refugees." We're already carrying more than our share of that burden!

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    1. We're the Land of free Milk and Honey. Give it up you logical waycisss honkey!

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