I'd want to see what China considers "high speed". I'd be surprised if they actually built 30k miles of "true" high speed rail, i.e. over 200 mph. Jonathan
SNIP Average speed Chinese High Speed rail: Network Scale and Practical Travel China operates the world’s largest high-speed rail network, over 50,000 km as of 2026, connecting nearly all major cities mychina.guide
. Despite the high top speeds, average trip speeds are slightly lower due to stops and operational constraints. For example, the Beijing–Shanghai HSR averages 292 km/h (182 mph) over the full journey Brilliant Maps
Summary Chinese high-speed rail combines extensive coverage, high operational speeds, and advanced technology, making it one of the fastest and most efficient rail systems globally. Travelers can experience speeds up to 350 km/h in regular service, while experimental runs demonstrate the potential for speeds exceeding 480 km/h. This makes HSR a competitive alternative to air travel for many domestic routes.
And now fast is American trains?
SNIP Current High-Speed Rail Services Amtrak’s Acela is North America’s premier high-speed rail service, operating between Washington, DC, and Boston, MA. It reaches top speeds of 150–160 mph on about 50 miles of track, with the NextGen Acela expected to reach 160 mph on 35 miles of its 457-mile route Wikipedia
Despite these speeds, average travel between Washington and New York is 82 mph, limited by aging infrastructure and catenary wires Wikipedia
Other Amtrak services, such as the Northeast Regional, reach 125 mph on some segments but are generally slower, with an average speed of 67 mph Wikipedia
Brightline, operating in Florida, is the first privately owned high-speed rail company in the U.S. It reaches 125 mph on short stretches, but most of its route operates at 110 mph, which does not meet international high-speed rail standards.
BUT Really the ISSUE is that China's Law-Abiding Culture allows folks to USE public transport properly.
LOOKING Around the room. How many of us here have ridden a Bus, let alone a train in the past decade?
Have you walked into a Greyhound terminal to use the very sketchy bathroom in the past decade?
Similar experience with Japanese trains and subways. Convenient, people are respectful and well behaved (eating, drinking and cell phone conversations are frowned on).
Bingo! the entire project was never going to be anything other than a giant graft for the politically connected. This is the "tip of the iceberg" really. The stuff Nick Fuentes and DOGE are uncovering is just the really blatant stuff. How about the trillions spent on do-nothing work programs like the TSA?
To all who envy the faster trains, more civil conduct of foreign lands and think life must be better there, to steal a phrase , 'Delta is ready when you are'.
I'd want to see what China considers "high speed". I'd be surprised if they actually built 30k miles of "true" high speed rail, i.e. over 200 mph.
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We have seen what California considers high speed.I am not surprised to see they have built ZERO k miles of high speed rail.i.e. Over.200 mph
DeleteSNIP Average speed Chinese High Speed rail:
DeleteNetwork Scale and Practical Travel
China operates the world’s largest high-speed rail network, over 50,000 km as of 2026, connecting nearly all major cities
mychina.guide
. Despite the high top speeds, average trip speeds are slightly lower due to stops and operational constraints. For example, the Beijing–Shanghai HSR averages 292 km/h (182 mph) over the full journey
Brilliant Maps
Summary
Chinese high-speed rail combines extensive coverage, high operational speeds, and advanced technology, making it one of the fastest and most efficient rail systems globally. Travelers can experience speeds up to 350 km/h in regular service, while experimental runs demonstrate the potential for speeds exceeding 480 km/h. This makes HSR a competitive alternative to air travel for many domestic routes.
And now fast is American trains?
SNIP Current High-Speed Rail Services
Amtrak’s Acela is North America’s premier high-speed rail service, operating between Washington, DC, and Boston, MA. It reaches top speeds of 150–160 mph on about 50 miles of track, with the NextGen Acela expected to reach 160 mph on 35 miles of its 457-mile route
Wikipedia
Despite these speeds, average travel between Washington and New York is 82 mph, limited by aging infrastructure and catenary wires
Wikipedia
Other Amtrak services, such as the Northeast Regional, reach 125 mph on some segments but are generally slower, with an average speed of 67 mph
Wikipedia
Brightline, operating in Florida, is the first privately owned high-speed rail company in the U.S. It reaches 125 mph on short stretches, but most of its route operates at 110 mph, which does not meet international high-speed rail standards.
BUT Really the ISSUE is that China's Law-Abiding Culture allows folks to USE public transport properly.
LOOKING Around the room. How many of us here have ridden a Bus, let alone a train in the past decade?
Have you walked into a Greyhound terminal to use the very sketchy bathroom in the past decade?
Similar experience with Japanese trains and subways. Convenient, people are respectful and well behaved (eating, drinking and cell phone conversations are frowned on).
DeleteIn California, the graft was the point. Actual infrastructure? Not on Newsom's watch.
ReplyDeleteBingo! the entire project was never going to be anything other than a giant graft for the politically connected.
DeleteThis is the "tip of the iceberg" really. The stuff Nick Fuentes and DOGE are uncovering is just the really blatant stuff. How about the trillions spent on do-nothing work programs like the TSA?
To all who envy the faster trains, more civil conduct of foreign lands and think life must be better there, to steal a phrase , 'Delta is ready when you are'.
ReplyDeleteSorry Landroll those countries have real boarders and don't encourage random immigration.
DeleteIn other words unless you have a real skillset they want your not invited. Unlike our "Give us your tired..."
But the REAL question is, where/who got the money???
ReplyDeleteConsultants, I will bet. Gotta 'study' the issues with lots of overseas travel to inspect all the other rail systems.
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