According to the book When Money Dies by Adam Ferguson, there were several times in the early 1920s when authorities in Germany's Weimar Republic misdiagnosed the causes of rising prices. They decided that the reason people could not afford basic necessities was because there was not enough money in circulation. So they printed more.
More money chasing the same amount (or less) goods bids up prices. The additional money in circulation fosters hoarding and has a negative net-impact. The authorities printed even MORE money. It was like watching a Dachshund chasing its tail.
I thought "How can they be so STUPID? The problem is as plain as the nose on their face and they cannot see it!"
Today
Today we seem to be in the early stages of accelerating inflation. We are the golf-ball rimming the cup.
We are paying people money to stay unemployed. Out of a misplaced sense of altruism, we feel sorry for them and continue to expand the pool of benefits they are eligible for.
We send(sent) millions of dollars to score of foreign countries to fund Gay-pride parades and to fund "gender studies".
We are propping up the military all around the world. And it is not just "poor" countries. We are subsidizing Europe's defense and they look down their noses at us. We are propping up Ukraine in the bear's armpit and Israel in the middle-East.
We are subsidizing spendthrift states and cities. We are blindly throwing money at Pharma. We get seduced by The Next Big Thing whether it is Green Energy or AI and the Goobermint pumps money into them, too.
(tiny violin playing) And the law-makers and the Fed say "Gee, Johnny and Joanie can't afford a house. We better goose the economy with stimulus".
BAM!
Just like the Weimar Republic.
But now it is a virtual dog chasing a virtual tail. Progress!
Putting people back to work
"More money chasing fewer goods"
Presumably, if more people are working, more goods-and-services are produced. That defuses one side of the inflation spiral. Getting able-bodied people off of the dole is mandatory if we are going to avoid hyper-inflation.
From the comments: "I think asking 20 hours out of every 168 hours is already lenient. If it were up to me, I'd have them fall in and call it boot camp for layabouts.
Section 8 is hereby known as barracks. Lights out at 2100."
Human bodies are plastic and adapt to the physical demands placed on them. Muscles grow. Callouses develop. Stamina increases. Pain perception shifts. Time perception calibrates. Intervals for defecating adjust.
Otherwise healthy men in the late teens are the most "plastic". Women, lacking testosterone, harden-up more slowly. As we age, our cells speed of growing and dividing decreases and we are adapt more slowly.
But even young men have limits. Almost three-quarters of young men are unfit for military service (although some of them are unfit due to drug use and/or criminal records). Dropping an unfit person into boot-camp means they will be red-lined due to blisters, sprains, back-issues or repetitive-use pathologies.
If you played football in high school, think about the first practices of the season. The coach started at two-a-day with (maybe) one hour each of actual exercise. Then three-a-day (with recovery periods between them). Then practice with pads and uniforms.
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| This is who is going to show up for "work day". Mid-thirties. Not very fit. |
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| "I am a knowledge worker. I don't sweat" |
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"I can't get my shirts dirty" |
On the civilian side, IT IS WORSE. They will show up to the first day of work in flip-flops, crocs and high-heels. They will be wearing spandex and lacy camisols. They will have long, artificial nails, fingers covered in rings, false eyelashes and ridiculously long dreadlocks. And the women will be dressed even more inappropriately. Both men and women will see it as a way to meet potential partners.
They will be on disability in a heartbeat and will be sheltered from having to work if they are dropped into 20 hours if strenuous, physical labor like cutting-and-dragging brush.
The only way I can see to avoid having 95% of the "workers" crash out of the program in the first week is to mimic the football coach and not the drill instructor.
The first day will be most covering what they CANNOT wear on the job. That includes rings because they are a snagging hazard and because you cannot wear work-gloves that fit when you have chunky rings or rings with stones mounted in them. Footwear is a big deal. And on and on and on.
Bottleneck
Getting crews like this going is very labor intensive. Realistically, it is going to take one supervisor for every four-or-five workers. I don't know where all of those supervisors are going to come from.
It sure won't be people with Masters degrees in Social Work.
Bless you Joe, for always seeing the positive. You're a far better man than me.
ReplyDeleteI have heard more than a few comparisons to todays time w/ that of Weimer Germany (the sexual degeneracy was rampant at that time as well - the books burned at "Krystalnacht" were homosexual literature, not greek classics and shakespeare.)
The one that struck me the hardest was comparing Trump to Hitler, and not in the sense that the leftists do. Rather he was elected (as was Adolf) by the people (as was our aspiring painter), and promised to return the country to its former glory (where have I heard THAT before)?
Lost to the pages of western history, is the fact that most Germans admired and liked Hitler quite a bit! I speak as someone who has heard this firsthand from my Grandparents who lived through all of that (like a lot of GI's, Dad met Mom on deployment in the 60's).
Trump is well liked enough by a sizeable portion of the population he won the election, based on a platform of turning away from the more recent adjustments and returning the country to its former state. Literally exactly as happened 100-so years ago in Bavaria.
Rhymes, it always rhymes.
Hitler scape-goated the Jews right from the beginning. I don't see Trump doing that.
DeleteThe Dems DID make the comparison more valid. Hitler spent time in prison (where he wrote Mein Kampf or My Struggle). The Dems did arrest him and take mug-shots although Trump avoided time behind bars.
The NAZI shit-show really went south when their empire stopped expanding. Everything was in place before then, but the mass executions began in earnest when they were unable to strip resources from newly conquered territory.
Regarding my optimism: I worked in a Union shop as a supervisor. There were a lot of "games". One that applies is when people who had been on disability (SLL people) returned to work and were being "placed".
Nobody wanted them. The supervisors didn't want them. The teams did not want them. The returning workers considered themselves very fragile and they "job shopped" for the least aerobic and least physically demanding jobs. They did that by finding a compliant doctor (or a corrupt clerk in a doctor's office" to write them "restrictions" like: "Cannot lift arm above shoulder height", "Cannot lift more than ten pounds", "Cannot bend over", "Cannot wear a respirator" and so on.
It will only take the EBTs a few days to figure that out.
The solution is to have the State Licensing and Regulation department start "investigating" the doctors who are writing all of the scripts. That would dry it up pretty darned quick.
Hitler was running for office, but the commenter is surprised how many people were persuaded to like him, as if that's unusual for a leader in a political campaign. Hitler was promoting a nationalist message that included hatred of Jews, but also promised to return Germany to its prominence as a world leader at a time when people were starving. Commenter then pronounces 'Trump = Hitler', with a triumphant sneer, as if he's made a breakthrough discovery. If it wasn't for Bad Faith, some people would be without faith.
DeleteAnother bottleneck as you sort of mentioned. Proper Clothing.
ReplyDeleteNot just getting them to remove jewelry for gloves to fit, Proper Gloves for example warm weather vs cold weather snow removal job gloves and clothing to match. Crocs and a snow shovel seem a really bad idea.
Friends when you've created a multi-generational PROBLEM it's going to take harsh methods and the violence that WILL Ensue OR Generations to gradually eliminate that PROBLEM.
No simple answer for CREATING a Entitled paid to protest by socialists and well armed violent members and getting them to "GO TO WORK" for their "Free Gibs".
So maybe the main deliverable ISN'T turning Billie Bum the IV into a model, productive citizen but in having Billie Bum the V hearing BBIV curse and complain for months about the shitty Goobermint job and Joe the Supervisor-from-Hell which motivates BBV to get a real job.
DeleteChuckling I was returning here as I was musing across the internet with my coffee cup in hand.
DeleteAnd here you are saying something I was thinking.
Now the TRICK as Hans Solo might say is keeping the VIOLENT NATURE of the worst of them from destroying what little we still have functioning.
It's FAR EASIER to destroy than build. A single disgruntled "EBT Employee" to bring to work a bottle of flaming but mostly peaceful (per CNN) gasoline to that Damned Slave Pit.. Or more subtle a little petroleum products in your greenhouse irrigation system (say GOODBYE to your soil and drip irrigation system)
VS the real effort and resources deployed to CREATE REAL JOBS that actually have the potential to produce something useful. I.E. A greenhouse full of Food or spices (you know you CAN grow Ginger, Turmeric and even black pepper in NH if you try hard enough, all imported right now).
REAL WORLD yesterday at Walmart I was asking around if anybody was willing to make 200 dollars cash for painting my deck. I am supplying the gear and stain.
NO TAKERS, just excuses like "my injured shoulder" on a 30 something tattooed across his neck and such who I KNOW has a wife and kid and mentioned money issues now and then over the years I've talked with him.
We've bred a MONSTER by LBJ's plan to as HIS Quote said "We'll have those ******* voting democrat for 200 years".
That Supervisor from Hell will be doxxed and his family destroyed by the socialist-democrats IF not simply murdered by an angry Gimme Dat.
It seems pretty obvious to me that this mountain will have to be shaved-down a layer at a time.
DeleteJust-in-time inventory strategies reduce costs because they sequentially uncover problems that must be addressed. (Graphic here: http://leanmanufacturingtools.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Inventory-Sea1.gif)
It looks like a Catch-22 situation. The local culture is mutually reinforcing in one direction. What needs to happen to avoid hyper-inflation or other unpleasantness is in the opposite direction.
Elevators out of poverty that involved cohesive sub-cultures (Boy Scouts as an example) have been "turned" by the larger culture.
Oddly in my morning readings I found this:
ReplyDeleteBenjamin Franklin had a tough practical attitude in helping the poor. “I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it.”
AND THAT was in the era BEFORE LBJ's "Great Society" started multi-generational Welfare lifestyle. When being "on the Dole" was something to be ashamed of and NOBODY would marry, let alone have you become their "BABY DADDY".
IE Lazy folks didn't BREED. That my friends IS the PROBLEM IMHO. And they will use those Glocks with "giggle switches" and violent resistance to being "CUT OFF".
Going to get ugly. Hope you've done your AO study and have trusted friends to work together with.
I am reminded here of the Victorian Workhouse in England - those who had fallen on hard times would do anything they could to avoid ending up there, to avoid the stigma. The Victorians knew the difference between the deserving and the undeserving poor - a distinction that we have lost sight of through misplaced ideas of "compassion".
DeleteI don't see where the 20 hours s week has to be hard labor - at least not in places that have lots of open jobs.
ReplyDeleteFor example, here there are lots of jobs and not many people. There are openings in fast food (Taco Bell is about to open, yeah!), grocery, restaurants, the hardware store, etc.
I suspect lots of places have trouble filling those pretty much menial jobs.
Is there a particular reason you are looking at hard labor and government jobs?
Jonathan
Many of the chronically unemployed have traits that make them poorly suited to traditional, entry-level jobs. In fact, it makes them unsuitable for virtually any job.
DeleteSome of the traits are genetic (i.e. they lack the mental capacity to remember to load the housekeeping cart with rolls of TP.) Some of the traits are social (Why are you yelling, I was on-time once this week).
From the standpoint of the employer, the most problematic trait is that they seek revenge when they hear something they don't like (i.e. "I was disrespected"). They destroy property. THey physically attack the boss or coworkers.
Cutting invasive honeysuckle in very small teams dilutes some of those issues. If they show up an hour late they can stay an extra hour to make up for that (they are not rewarded with a short work-day). If they destroy some bushes when in a rage...isn't that the point of the exercise? It takes a lot of effort to destroy a tool and they are cheap to replace...cheap enough that it can come out of their paycheck. There aren't a lot of visitors at the park in the off-season so there aren't many people to put on a theatrical show for.
That is why I am writing about this particular task. Other people might read the description and come up with work with similar characteristics in their A-o-O.
Gee Joe, really sucks that the Work Bus has several FLAT TIRES this morning.
DeleteAnd tomorrow... And who stole all the tools and...
Folks that are Gimme Dats are really willing to work harder to steal and or avoid than actually...you know Work?
One time my dad was in charge of a grounds keeping crew. They would regularly damage or destroy the power mowers and trimmers so they wouldn't have to work. After a few sessions of pushing a non powered mower or a weed whip some learning occurred. These weren't welfare princes but a lot were graduates of “ Jackson State College”
DeleteTsgt Joe did the Jackson State College folks regularly shoot up parties around the winning or losing games?
DeleteYour Dad lived in saner times.
I think Tsgt Joe meant Jackson State Prison, at one time it was billed as the largest, walled prison in the world.
DeleteIt has been converted to an "Arts Village".
There is a Jackson State College, I looked it up. If he meant the Prison then I suspect back then the Guards and Guns-AMMO, Clubs and DOGS to enforce compliance. That would been around the 50's or so by my math.
DeleteAgain his Dad lived in SANER TIMES. Where Prison was a BAD Place to be and you tried HARD not to go there.
As I recall, the Weimar- or its successor -tried that, also. There were camps for the “work shy”.
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ReplyDeleteMaybe if there was some immediate incentive for entry level work. The paycheck should do it, but apparently it isn’t enough for some people. Maybe, ‘do this for a week, do it right, and next week you get a slightly better job with slightly more pay. ‘
ReplyDeleteI think for a lot of the unwilling, there isn’t anything, short of starvation, and law enforcement, to get them motivated.
I was raised to work, most of us were, so I can’t quite understand the living on hand-out attitude.
Southern NH
2 issues with you argument:
ReplyDelete1: You forget that firstly we need to start drug testing people before they receive any government benefits. Clean test or no Free Shit.
2:You assume that these people need to be "given" a job. Wrong. Not up to the government.
Instead, make them FIND and KEEP a job. IF they can't , then they get cut off.
Lots of people looking for workers, It isn't up to anyone but the worker to adapt.
Once they get hungry enough, they will decide to show up dressed appropriately, And they will deal with the blisters and sore muscles because they need the job to keep getting the Free Shit.
I 100% concede the first point.
DeleteRegarding the second point: There are strong disincentives for most private sector employers to hire "employment resistant people", not the least of which is litigation and reputation risks.
Maybe it seems like a really stupid idea now, but some time in the next thirty years some of us are going to need somebody to wipe out back-sides or fetch our slippers.
When they get hungry enough and are at risk of losing their children they will become less "Employment Resistant", ....if only to keep the job.
DeleteIt isn't fixable. We are screwed. Collapse is on the way. --ken
ReplyDeleteI've read somewhere in Revelations. That a man will work from dawn to dusk for a loaf of bread! That's spicy times.Woody
ReplyDelete"need somebody to wipe out back-sides or fetch our slippers."
ReplyDeleteThe job title is Personal Care Worker. There are 20,000 unfilled PCW positions in Wisconsin. The pay is poor but the job satisfaction can be rich. Unfortunately, people don't want to work because it's easier to be on the dole.
Aside: Nurse Becky would visit in-home care situations to ensure things were being done correctly. When a PCW would get canned for not doing the job, she would attend the unemployment compensation hearing with documentation in hand. 200 times at last count and not one of the bums got unemployment. She had flame tatts on both arms and a powder puff blue .45 under the driver's seat. I liked Becky!
I think a lot of your readers dont fully appreciate how badly damaged a lot of the multi generational welfare recipients are. For example, if most of us lose our source of income, we would think in terms of what work can I find and do to live. As a stove up 76 yr old, I’m probably screwed but work as a solution is part of my thinking. You might think that thinking is there, hiding under some resistance or sense of entitlement, but its not. If a job is viewed at all, its just a place where they give me money. The reality that I’m going to have to put up with a lot of crap in the course of my work day isnt really there. Picture growing up in an environment where no one, NO ONE, in your household gets up every day goes out and works for your food and shelter. Truly there is no conception that people work to take care of themselves. That piece isn't suppressed, its missing. Additionally, education isnt valued nor is the self discipline needed to accomplish anything valued. My opinions are based on working in the welfare/ fostercare system for a few decades.
ReplyDeleteWhen people get hungry enough, or the authorities are taking their children because they can't feed them, those people you mention WILL figure it out, or at least most will. the other will starve which is not a bad way to cleanse the gene pool, as it were.
DeleteIt is folks like you, with the attitude that "those folks can't/won't learn and that they are damaged beyond repair so we MUST perpetuate the system" keep the system of failure going. You are part of the problem.
Make them learn or starve. Most will choose to learn. the other.....won't and therefore will end up not being a problem
B care to give us a LINK to a successful example of your thesis?
DeleteDo you think that folks will simply and quietly starve out to "cleanse the gene pool" as you nicely said?
Do you really think folks will just surrender their children to the "Authorities" upon demand due to lack of ability to feed them?
Margret Sanger might have a word for you about that sort of thing.
Do you think THE MOST HIGHLY ARMED PEOPLE IN HISTORY of the WHOLE WORLD will just say "Yes, Sir" to your "Make them learn or starve. Most will choose to learn. the other.....won't and therefore will end up not being a problem".
In a few days we will know if the socialist-democrats will Create an American Disaster of the EBT riots across 50 states.
It will not be the Rodney King riots just in LA. It will not be the Burn Loot Murder controlled riots that damaged NOTHING of critical value to civilization like water purification plants and power grid.
We didn't start the fire as that song goes.
HOW are WE Part of the Problem? Care to give us ONE Realistic thing WE can DO to stop or correct this generational Problem?
We don't control the jackasses of the socialist-democrats AS THE REPUBLICANS have DAILY given them a Clean Continuing Resolution to FUND this sort of thing. But they seem determined to create a Trump destroying event by burning down our country.
Sun Zu was right. An evil rule will burn down his country to rule over the ashes. Seems that happened even back then.
You pusillanimous weaklings who say that "there is nothing we can do" are the root of the continuance of the problem. Those that think that continuing to subsidize a culture of laziness and dependence will somehow give you less of it are, indeed, part of the problem.
DeleteFolks are forced to surrender their children NOW, what makes you think that that would be any less successful then?
Few of the subsidized/lazy segment own enough firearms to make a diff3erence. Maybe in appalachia, but even then, not so many as you imply.
How can I give you a link to a solution that folks like you, who are afraid to implement and who would rather fearfully continue the present course (while whining about the same result over and over) won't let happen?
If we need to have another set of riots to make it happen, so be it. They will riot and shit up their own neighborhood. No one really cares as long as they do it to their own homes.
When they come to the more affluent (I.E> Middle Class and above) neighborhoods, then things will get spicier as the cops bother to dissuade them.
When things go to "either work or starve", they will either work or starve or get dead another way.....
P.S, Prove me wrong if you believe I am, I am always willing to learn.
DeleteLOL what a brilliant social speaker.
DeleteYou pusillanimous weaklings
First a small FACT for your thinking.
Some 16% of Americans (google) are on some sort of EBT and such. Given that is one in 6 and all person's adult or child are in that population count that MEANS about 1 in 3 Families have some sort of Social Support.
A lot more % wise are the 13%ers who seem to have decent firepower and aggressive behaviors.
So "Few of the subsidized/lazy segment own enough firearms to make a diff3erence. Maybe in appalachia, but even then, not so many as you imply."
Is fairly ignorant.
I personally have worked in local food kitchens and work EMS. I can ASSURE you a LOT of the Working Poor (ON EBT) around here are HUNTERS and damn good ones.
Happily, unless you're a Walter Mitty (lives an exciting life in his mind that nobody knows about) or a sociopath your attitude is well known by your manners (or lack of them) and speech. Thus, neighborhood karma will be yours.
So, given that your opinions lack the facts on the ground how pay tell are you and your happy pack of heroes going to do anything to cure this multi-generational problem?
Skinsuit killings I assume?
I've done medical support in Bosnia during the ethnic cleansing. I've was at Bondsteel before it was a NATO base with a PX and Gym. It was ugly outside the wire taking care of civilians caught up in the same nastiness you seem to be advocating.
Please take your You pusillanimous weaklings crap outside and wipe when your done.
B your comment that I’m saying we must perpetuate the system- learn to read. Nowhere did I say that. I stated that I didnt think a lot of folks understood how big the problem was. I suppose if I saw you preparing to wade a river and informed you it was 10 feet deep you’d think I was trying conspire to prevent you from crossing. You remind me why I usually dont talk to progressives, they, like you, think just calling awareness to an issue is to support it.
DeleteProgessives? Me?
DeleteHah!
I strongly doubt that the segment of the people you serve that are hunters will be the problem if aid is cut off. Hunters have the ability to think beyond the immediate and those folks generally are not the criminal type that will take what they think they are owed by society. Your argument is weak
DeleteAs always, interesting, thought provoking post and comments. Regards the society we've built from the1950's 'commodity food program' through 'food stamps' and EBT programs and all the other freebies. we seem to have forgetten a primary rule: Kto he pabotaet. he kushayet. Or in English. He who doesn't work. doesn't eat. I seem to recall a story from early American history regarding such a topic. Cheers
ReplyDeleteExcellent book. Another point the author made was nary a single farmer had a mortgage after all that. But I also point out that a some stage the farmers would not sell their produce for the worthless money. Urban dwellers did not just raid farms for what they needed to eat, they destroyed everything they could not take with them. Roger
ReplyDeleteA second major point in the book in my opinion is that it was not just reparations that created Wiemar but the entire taxation structure of the war funding. Wiemar was sunk before reparations even started. Roger
ReplyDeleteGood luck finding 'supervisors'...the EBT crowd will ignore/argue with them about EVERY little thing.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I know it is fantasy. Tillman Ellis (from a few blog-posts back) had the ability to point at somebody and say "You are fired" and they were done for the day...no pay.
DeleteThe supervisor would need that kind of authority. "No pay. No hours toward your 20 hours for EBT"
I cannot see that happening, although that is what is required.
After reading through the comments, I think the implied work program as a means to get the layabouts off of EBT, et al may turn into a socialist programme. The image is of Big Brother providing everyone a job. The mindless desk clerk, the checker of the checker of the checker of perennially new policies, the library book duster and such. All under the careful eye of the Secretariat. I think Twilight Zone had episodes on this.
ReplyDeleteERJ thinking like an engineer. This is no slight against the man or such type of thinking. But it does seem as taking the simple an adding complexity. I agree that there are many aspects to consider. But I also had said there is zero tolerance for weak minds and weak bodies to dictate terms. Were not going to play to weakness.
When assaulting the hill we don't ask why, we simply move forward. Non-hackers will be casualties. That should be expected. We have casualties now. Millions of casualties across the whole country to which there is no sign of reducing. There will be casualties. Not everyone will survive.
The difference of what is now and what is proposed is the now makes casualties of those truly trying to get ahead, whereas the proposed constrains the casualties to those who choose to be. This would constitute a reduction of casualties. IOW, winning.
A top solution would be to penalize those politicians, et al who seek to lessen the strings attached and who promote expansive welfare. Inclusive is placing bold constraints on NGOs.
Promoting the church into retaking the lead position in charity would be a parallel goal..
Extracted from the individual and redistributed against their wishes under threat of incarceration, can hardly be considered 'charity'. Government control of such distribution is theft, not charity. I give freely to the blessing box at the church on my corner. Big difference.
DeleteMight I suggest, involving the government is where this all went off the rails in the first place? When charity was given freely, those benefiting had to be happy with what they got! Today the leeches demand ever more, amd threaten to destroy the peace in our society if we don't keep giving MOAR!!!!
Charity?! No, it is no longer an appropriate term. Thus Newspeak enters our society totally unawares (same way illegals became undocumented citizens). Welfare money stolen from your paycheck without your consent or approval and given to those who don't work has now morphed into charity. Isn't liberalism wonderful?
And bring back shame. Shame of receiving entitlements disappeared when faceless bureaucrats dictated such. By the same means, it can be brought again, only this time by The People.
ReplyDeleteSo much truth here.
DeleteI remember food stamps, coupon books, and the politicians said we needed to give them ATM cards just like working people so the freeloaders wouldn't FEEL BAD for freeloading.
THE POINT to feeling bad, was to motivate you to get off it! Same as prison is supposed to uncomfortable, so you don't want to go back there! That gets inverted and look what happened? 60+ years of data and examples sufficient yet?
It all started with women gaining power and the 'softer' touch, that elevated 'feelings' more important than logic and truth.
Are you starting to understand why we HAVE to repeal the 19th Amendment yet or do you need more examples of how wimmens lib fucked everything up? Everyone laments the world today, why can't we go back to Mayberry? Not until the women do first.
End EBT/SNAP for .anyone who is not physically incapable of doing something that is useful and productive. And THEY don't get to decide what that is. Children should also be fed as long as they go to school and get passing grades. EVERYONE ELSE. Let them starve. The problem isn't complicated, neither is the solution. All it takes is the cojones to implement it.
ReplyDeleteLe Sigh Dan. You seem to miss that most of us here are NOT into seeing ashes where our homes, businesses and critical systems that allow us safe water, electricity and all that.
Delete"EVERYONE ELSE. Let them starve. The problem isn't complicated, neither is the solution. All it takes is the cojones to implement it."
Cojones, yeah that's a deep thought. Americans are the most heavily armed peoples in History. We have the 13%ers zipping off mag dumps over homecomings for football. That they don't shoot well AT THEIR PEEPS over arguments is going to change when things get serious and you and I HAVE THEIR Free SHIT.
Not every American is a tough superhero sort I hear posting "the final solution". I suspect that most have to go to work leaving their kids and family behind to the protection of a CIVIL Society, the general obedience of law and such.
Going home to ashes and a shattered family after "starving" folks come a visiting isn't a good thing.
Going shopping at the risk of being a target of several well armed thugs as we are RICH in their eyes isn't a fun thing either.
Armed thugs are a real problem in a Not Civil Society like the "Let em starve" superheroes seem to desire.
16% of Americans are getting social support. Almost all of the 13%ers get it, illegals that the socialist-democrats are trying to get fighting ICE and such are getting.
MOST IMPORTANTLY IMHO is that our WORKING POOR IE that Walmart worker and such are getting it.
Are they armed? At least here in NH they are.
DO YOU REALLY THINK they will simply shrug and let their kids do without that SNAP-EBT (same program). They do around here get their deer and turkeys often enough but that doesn't replace milk and such.
Dan, DID YOU MISS the LAYOFFS and general UNEMPLOYMENT across America in the past 10 years or so?
Dan, did you MISS that Robotics are RIGHT F*ing NOW taking low end Jobs at places like even Walmart-Amazon and so on? Even Mac Dees is looking seriously at robotic hamburger robots. Cheaper in a year or so than a human's pay, benefits and they don't steal or fail to come to work.
FAR MORE PEOPLE than Meaningful Employment buddy. When the REPORTING of Employed People was changed (like Inflation reporting changes) to ALLOW folks that work but 20 hours a week to be Reported as EMPLOYED that lie just keeps the numbers reported sounding good.
The multi-generational problem set before us was Created by socialist-communists aided by tolerance and misplaced kindness to keep them from "feeling ashamed" for needing aid.
LBJ set it up to KEEP those ******* voting democrat for 200 years and it worked. Almost HALF of the power structure built up over the decades was built to support that bread and circuses style of Democratic Leadership.
Sadly the other party conserved NOTHING, as there was power and MONEY in "going along to get along" politics.
BRING BACK SHAME at being On the Dole and that over decades might get us back to the 1950's social safety net.
Barkeepers are sent to jail for "overserving drunks who go on to DWI accidents" JUDGES that set free Violent Criminals to go out and continue raping and murdering law-abiding Americans should be punished along with those REPEAT OFFENDERS.
No simple answer to a complex situation Dan.
Both Dan and B demonstrated that they are capable of articulating their views. I want to inject a thought that bridges Michael and Dan's position.
DeleteBullies get their jollies with they can do it at zero cost to themselves. As soon as their victim starts fighting back, they move on to safer victims.
Takers will take anything as long as it is absolutely free to them. As a guy who grows plants, I learned that most of the plants I gave away never got planted, even when the tree had an MSRP of $60. The taker liked the idea of having the plant but not the work involved in keeping it alive. Even charging five bucks for that $60 tree pushed the odds of it being planted from 5% to 90%.
Allocative efficiency, something capitalism excels at, drops to near-zero when some consumers can get "loot" without any cost to themselves.
One of the things where I agree with Dan and B is that the bullies MUST believe that the victim has the will to "fight to the knife", or you train the bully to keep bullying even after the victim throws the first few punches back.
Ok Joe. Don't need to answer but just how well will your spouse do if "bullies" show up to her car after she has gone shopping.
DeleteOr while you're working on the trees some vehicle shows up to redistribute your wealth at your home?
Mine would do poorly as her cane isn't a James Bond weapon. She's not harmless as one thug found out. Took almost a month to get back the 38 from the evidence room after it was deemed self defense. But she's not a superhero and inclined to think best of folks and that's a problem in a not civil society.
Provoking the war by starving them seems less than thoughtful in my opinions based on being in Bosnia during the ethnic cleansing.
We have a multi-generational problem that includes poor political leadership of bread and circuses and Judges that choose to "rehabilitate not punish" repeat offenders that prey on less than superhero souls.
So please ponder what fight to the knife means to your spouse and children-grandchildren.
THAT'S my point to the starve them ideas.
So since you are a afraid of the possibility of violence we should keep the conditions that we have that led to where we are instead of fixing it?
DeleteThat is what will perpetuate the system and keep us from improving it.
You miss the point: "Doing the same thing and expecting different results is madness"
Being fearful enough to cower instead of changing things is a woman's trait, Be a man.
B when I see strange fruit hanging from light posts, I'll take your bravery seriously.
DeleteMeanwhile in the decades folks like you have posted so much about nothing has really happened from your "team" has it?
I DON'T Miss the point of doing the same thing. I know that a very complex situation that has Socialist-democrats playing Mass Rioting Chicken with Trump is very likely to end with folks like Joes little old lady he put a trail cam on getting destroyed by thugs seeking more free shit.
You seem to miss that point Sir.
Meanwhile at keyboard time "Being fearful enough to cower instead of changing things is a woman's trait, Be a man."
Wake me up WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING sir.
Ferguson also observes the rampantly climbing stock market of Weimar. Industrial companies were tremendously profitable and were a source of printing pressure on the central bank. They paid cash to employees and needed more to physically make payroll. A chilling parallel to today. We MUST have a balanced budget. Roger
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