Dan commented on an earlier post about dire consequences if/when a technology failure triggered failed crops in the US.
The question that popped into my head involved HOW MUCH of a failure could we manage our way around and when must people start dying in the streets because there simply, mathematically, is not enough calories, fat and protein?
The short answer is that 50% of our current wheat harvest would have to fail .AND. 70% of our current soybean .AND. 90% of our corn harvest. A major caveat is that the transportation/distribution system would have to be able to efficiently allocate the much smaller amounts of food.
The first order analysis, aka back-of-envelop calculations) figured 2500 Calories per day per person, 33% from fat and 70 grams of protein per person per day. One egg per person and pregnant women and pre-teens getting 1/2 liter of milk a day.
The total ration would be famine bread that was 38% wheat flour and 38% corn flour with the remainder being de-fatted soy flour to bump the protein up to 19% (to meet the 70 grams/day target).
Meat, booze, imported fruits and vegetable consumption would be driven to almost zero under this draconian scenario although grass-fed beef and lamb would be available in small amounts and so would small game like rabbit.
Countries that depend on our food exports would be in a world of hurt.
My 40,000 fly-over conclusion is that famine in the United States is far more likely to be created by failures in the logistics-and-allocation sectors than failures in the production sectors.
Highway pickup
I participated in a "Highway Pickup" event yesterday.
I was chatting with an older gentleman while we waited for the rest of the crew to show up. He told me about inheriting canning jars from his parents and from his wife's parents. He told me had quite a collection of them before that happened.
Recently, they gave 500 of the jars to some neighbors, an older, Amish couple.
The couple, in turn, washed every jar until is sparkled and gave them, boxes and boxes full of them, to a newly married Amish couple as a wedding gift. The bride was thrilled to the point of (happy) tears to receive the gift.
Same man, another story
Shortly before he mustered out of the Army, he worked in recruiting. He had been detailed to pick up a group of new recruits and transport them to the base for in-processing prior to boot-camp.
He was issued a Ford Econvan and departed at -3-o-dark-thirty for a city of approximately one million people.
Upon arriving at the pick-up point, he saw 14 men milling around. His fan held 8. With the motivational method he had learned in the military he was able to pack 12 of them into the van.
Driving was difficult with his elbows wedged in against his side, but orders were orders.
He had been driving for half an hour when the recruit leaning against him asked about the beds they would be sleeping on.
"You will get whatever Uncle Sam issues you" the driver replied.
"Geeze, it can't be worse than what we bunked in last night" the guy behind him said. "My gawd...I never seen so many bed-bug bites and I swear I got head-lice there..."
The driver hit the brakes and swerved to the side of the highway. "OUT!! OUT! OUT!!!!" he screamed at them.
After a multitude of WTFs, he finally got them all out of the van.
He assured them that there was a bus coming in ten minutes to pick them up (a bald-faced lie) and slammed the doors shut, leaving them standing beside the highway with their bags in the dark.
His Commanding Officer asked him "Where are the recruits? Didn't you pick them up?"
The driver said "They told me that they had head-lice. I dropped them off beside Mullet Highway near Snook Avenue."
The CO cursed a blue streak and started making phone calls. The last time they had imported lice it had taken weeks to get rid of them and it reflected poorly on the CO's record.
Then the CO ordered the driver to get a haircut, pick up Rid shampoo at the Px and a clean uniform from the quartermaster and to get sanitized via the shower-room.
He said that he was scratching for a week after that, thinking about how close he had been to 12 men with head-lice and bed-bugs.
Bonus pictures
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| Rose-hips. During WWII, boys in Britain were sent out to collect them to supply Vitamin C. That is because citrus imports had been driven to zero by the U-Boats sinking transport ships. |



I have some wild roses running around the property. I curse them when mowing, but am reminded of the hips and winter scarcity, so I let them be (for the most part). I'll be dipped if some critter didn't eat all of them off the vines this year! I wonder if they know something I don't? The persimmon's seeds showed spoons this year.
ReplyDeleteYour quite good with numbers Joe.
ReplyDeleteA small issue I see it the peaceful acceptance of our "rations" being created by the Government Famine Bread.
I think you mislaid the level of violence incurred during the transition of "normal foods" to scarcity to Governmental control creating the system to make and distribute Famine Bread.
Let alone partisan politics trying to make the OTHER Side look bad.
As blue cities are part of the interstate system a few dozen Rodney King riots, a few that's NOT Halal Riots and just folks angry about being left out (true or not) will put a serious DENT into the Ability to transport the raw materials to the hastily set up production factories THEN the distribution of product.
Time isn't your friend when folks are getting ever so Hungry and ANGRY. Every delay is more fuel to violence.
The Arab Spring 2.0 American version but with the most heavily armed civilians in the world.
You made a compelling case that the symptoms of a major crop failure would be the *trigger* but the real damage would be caused by the disruptions to the logistics/allocation mechanisms.
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Many cities have outer beltways or other arterial roads that can bypass the likely worst areas.
DeleteSome do not, but those are coastal cities that will be endpoints for food distribution, not pass through points.
I suspect the biggest issue would be crossing the Mississippi west to East. The bridges there are mostly in cities, and there are few ferries left to use alternate crossing points.
Jonathan
Joe it's only a compelling case if I get folks I like to gather up a DEEP LARDER and keep their mouths closed about it.
DeleteI've heard stories how the Holodomor really happened.
Stalin could have just sent his military in to kill off the resistant Kulaks and burn their food to get whoever successfully hid. Standard procedure with rebellion.
BUT Stalin had a serious food shortage and needed food for his cities. Thus, the military theft of all foodstuffs of the Kulaks. Even used food bribes to get folks to rat out each other to ensure as much food was stolen as possible.
Even in America we have history of anti-hording food during times of troubles. WW1 and WW2 folks were encouraged to rat out hoarders.
History rhymes all too often.
Russia had killing famines on average about every 8 years prior to the 1950's. The large interior space on both sides of the Urals has little surface water to support rain cloud creation and when the winds don't bring clouds from the oceans, crops fail. Lousy communications kept news of famines from government officials in Moscow, so the Russian response to famines was always tardy.
DeleteThe 1921 Urals famine was far more deadly than the 1932 famine, which itself was far worse in the Kazakh ASSR than in the Ukrainian SSR. About 10 million Russians died in the 1921 Urals famine, and about half of all Kazakhs died in the 1930 to 1933 period, at least 2.5 million souls. The famine began a year earlier in the Kazakh ASSR and the Kuban, well prior to the Ukrainian SSR famine.
What happened in Russia in 1921 and 1930 was not markedly different from the 1930 Dust Bowl phenomenon on this side of the globe. It is likely that there was a meteorological connection. The difference in death rates can be ascribed to better American transportation networks which moved people out of the affected areas and conveyed relief supplies into the affected areas.
Government intervention in both the Soviet famines and the Dust Bowl was highly detrimental. The Russians got widespread rain in 1934, but many areas of the Dust Bowl were parched until 1940.
The destruction of the Russian Orthodox Church during the Soviet revolution was a far more important factor in the 1921 and 1930 famine outcomes than collectivization and other repressive measure undertaken by the Soviets. The Orthodox Church had been the bulwark against famine throughout Russian history but no longer had adequate resources to mitigate famines by 1921. The ROC was all but destroyed by 1930. Their funds had been stolen and their clerics had been killed by the Soviets.
The history of government "helping" during famines and political uprisings is poor.
DeleteERJ - Logistics is the big issue. Many urban areas are not co-located by where their food comes from. Other urban areas are simply unsustainable without modern technology, most energy which allows things to be transported there or climate control that makes it bearable or pumps that draw water from aquifers.
ReplyDeleteHead lice - I shudder. We had go-arounds with that when Na Clann were young. Devilishly hard to get rid of.
And a disease vector for diseases common to war, but largely forgotten by the general population.
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RE head lice: Great! Now tell us about ticks. 90% of your readers are now scratching at psychosomatic itches. :-)
ReplyDeleteBed bugs: a portable steamer for de-wrinkling clothing kills bedbugs in the clothes. Use it before donning the clothes, not while wearing the clothes. Set bedposts in empty tuna or coffee cans containing permethrin; bed bugs don't pole vault. Rutgers University and Mark Rober did an informative video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JAOTJxYqh8
Bed Bugs don't pole vault, but they do love to hitch a ride on your feet as you head into bed.
DeleteGood point. Steam yer feet? Permethrin-impregnated socks have some effect and would be better than bare skin.
DeleteEvery innocent tickle tonight will jolt me awake now. :-)
Ed over at softsolder dot com dealt with a case of bedbugs they picked up on a trip. He built a hotbox disinsector to exterminate bedbugs in luggage( and ...)
ReplyDeleteLink to the entire saga:
https://softsolder.com/2010/11/21/bed-bugs-wrapup/
Thanks for sharing Jim! What a saga!
DeleteI have about 1/2 acre of land that I and friends share to grow potatoes. This year there was about a 50% crop failure due to weather. Last year was bad also. Just shows me why my ancestors came here from Ireland . It can get bad no matter how good you are at growing crops. ---ken
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