The modifications were to: -Make it a smaller, handier size -Use containers that most home-owners have on hand (ice-cream buckets, paint buckets, dry-wall compound buckets -Specify EXACTLY what kind of bottle to use as the spinner (i.e. one that fits) -Use a liquid that would not freeze during most winter weather -Bonus: Have a high-enough of an ethanol content that the deceased mice will be pickled and not smell
One question that needs to be answered is "Will the smaller size allow the mice to escape off of the spinner? I positioned the axis of the spinner about 2" below the rim in hopes of minimizing that risk.
I assume the RV antifreeze is non toxic to other critters? I use only water, don’t want to kill any foxes or owls or whatever. Of course, doesn’t work in winter. Then I just use snap traps. Southern NH
Nope. Get a bunch of glue traps, the big ones for rats and place them side by side in a big square. Put dry dog food nuggets in the middle and watch them all die by push-ups.
Propylene glycol is generally considered safe for dogs in regulated amounts, as it is classified as a "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) substance by the FDA. However, it is not safe for cats, and the FDA has banned its use in cat foods due to potential health risks, including Heinz body formation and reduced red blood cell survival.
In food "Generally regarded as safe" is measured in grams per kilogram in food.
Remember all things Banned by the FDA were once APPROVED by the FDA, AFTER Harm they couldn't ignore or hide..
I was heartless re wandering pets. Neighbor had eighty-eleven cats. He fed everything. My whole side yard smelled of cat urine. The fights and mating were almost incessant. I'm not so heartless at this new spot. The place has snakes-o-plenty and the kits and chickens keep them at bay.
Try honey cornbread mix and baking soda outside. If you can figure out a squirrel resistant container, it'll off the small rodents without entombing them in the attic. IIRC.
A sure sign that your bait works is all of a sudden you have dozens of very large flies buzzing in and out. They devour before any smell develops. Cornbread and baking soda works great!
I use a 1x3 plank to the stair way to heaven myself.
ReplyDeleteThat stick might rotate and scare them.
Michael the anonymous
Mouse trap?
ReplyDeleteYes. A mouse trap.
DeleteThe modifications were to:
-Make it a smaller, handier size
-Use containers that most home-owners have on hand (ice-cream buckets, paint buckets, dry-wall compound buckets
-Specify EXACTLY what kind of bottle to use as the spinner (i.e. one that fits)
-Use a liquid that would not freeze during most winter weather
-Bonus: Have a high-enough of an ethanol content that the deceased mice will be pickled and not smell
One question that needs to be answered is "Will the smaller size allow the mice to escape off of the spinner? I positioned the axis of the spinner about 2" below the rim in hopes of minimizing that risk.
Time will tell.
I assume the RV antifreeze is non toxic to other critters? I use only water, don’t want to kill any foxes or owls or whatever. Of course, doesn’t work in winter. Then I just use snap traps.
ReplyDeleteSouthern NH
Nontoxic antifreeze is a less dangerous to pets (and wildlife) version.
DeleteThe recommendation if you suspect your pet has consumed some is a VET Visit.
Although I'd love a way to keep the stairway to heaven water liquid just one neighbor cat raiding the mice could end up sick-dead.
Maybe an old style incandescent light bulb Joe? Our mice don't seem to care about lights.
Vegetable oil is an option.
Deletesalt water.
DeleteNope. Get a bunch of glue traps, the big ones for rats and place them side by side in a big square. Put dry dog food nuggets in the middle and watch them all die by push-ups.
ReplyDeleteI used glue traps once and was disgusted by the results......
DeleteI am much happier having their little necks snapped quickly....
Not liking it. I hope the other critters don't get into it. A neighbour had a cat get into the antifreeze - apparently it's like ambrosia to them?
ReplyDeleteNot positive, but it looks like the trap is set up in the attic away from larger animals.
DeleteAttic that lets rodents in. I've seen signs of cats in my attic, and I've been working on getting it rodent proof for quite some time.
DeleteConcur on the glue traps. Cats and racoons will go for the antifreeze.
ReplyDeletePropylene Glycol is available in FOOD grade.
ReplyDeleteA little East of Paris
Propylene glycol is generally considered safe for dogs in regulated amounts, as it is classified as a "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) substance by the FDA. However, it is not safe for cats, and the FDA has banned its use in cat foods due to potential health risks, including Heinz body formation and reduced red blood cell survival.
DeleteIn food "Generally regarded as safe" is measured in grams per kilogram in food.
Remember all things Banned by the FDA were once APPROVED by the FDA, AFTER Harm they couldn't ignore or hide..
Can you add alcohol to the water instead of antifreeze? Maybe some cheap booze? Night train? MD 20 20? Bali Hai? Vodka?
ReplyDeleteSouthern NH
I was heartless re wandering pets. Neighbor had eighty-eleven cats. He fed everything. My whole side yard smelled of cat urine. The fights and mating were almost incessant. I'm not so heartless at this new spot. The place has snakes-o-plenty and the kits and chickens keep them at bay.
ReplyDeleteTry honey cornbread mix and baking soda outside. If you can figure out a squirrel resistant container, it'll off the small rodents without entombing them in the attic. IIRC.
A sure sign that your bait works is all of a sudden you have dozens of very large flies buzzing in and out. They devour before any smell develops. Cornbread and baking soda works great!
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