Monday, October 6, 2025

Tucking the garden in for the winter

I read in a magazine that planting oats in your garden is good for the soil and you can harvest a crop later in the year.

Can anybody tell me how long I will have to wait before the seeds germinate?


 Belatedly beating the garden into shape for the winter.

I need to rethink my management because I had a huge problem with snails. I always have some, but early summer, 2025 was ideal for snails from a rain and humidity standpoint.

I planted oats (actual oat seeds, not the cereal) this year for a cover crop. They winter-kill at about 20 Fahrenheit so they will not take-off and grow in the spring. I will till them under as soon as the ground is workable. My thinking is that the snails won't have any food or cover for most of April and that should knock back the population. 

Seeds

This time of year is a bonanza for seed collection. These are a persimmon variety named Juhl (aka Yates).

Nearly all of the very best Claypool persimmons have this variety as the female parent and some variant of Early Golden (Early Golden, Garretson, George, G1, G2, Killen, Golden Supreme, John Rick, Szukis, F-100) as the pollen parent. My two main trees have a Szukis or F-100 branch grafted into them.

This is an "on" year for Emma K black walnut. The crop on the Sparks 147 and Drake is much lighter. The Emma K is a very early bloomer and the seeds were undoubtedly pollinated by wild, unimproved trees. The Sparks 147 and Drake bloom at almost the same time and are planted close to each other, so it seems likely that many of the nuts are blessed with promising genetics from both sides. 

11 comments:

  1. Every fall after cleaning up my gardens I cover them with leaves from my yard. After which I cover the leaves with 4 Mil Black Plastic. Come spring i pull the plastic and plant. I haven’t tilled my garden in many years. The leaves leave nutrients and the plastic kills any weeds. I have two large gardens and a huge lawn to provide the leaves. Except for one small section that we plant several hundred garlic, which grow all winter. Oh yes, I live in upstate New York about 30 minutes from Canada.

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    1. Good stuff Dan. Also, for times of troubles the 4 mil black plastic and leaves can help kill off weeds and grass in solarization for emergency gardening efforts.

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  2. ERJ - You might look at barley and/or rye as a Winter cover crop as well.

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  3. I heard somewhere that wood ash deters slugs and snails.
    sam

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    1. Wood ash will raise the pH of the soil, so peat moss may need to be tilled in to balance it. Sending a soil sample away for analysis is often very much worthwhile. Sometimes a simple correction provides a miracle.

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    2. Don't put wood ash where you are going to plant potatoes as it causes scab and other issues. Everywhere else is fine.---ken

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  4. Didn't have luck with oats. I think you have to drill the seed? I tried Barley this year and broadcast it on freshly harrowed ground just before 2-days of rain, and she popped up in 4.

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  5. We grow broad beans and leeks through the winter, in addition to the unstoppable Jerusalem artichokes. Advantage of a temperate climate.

    There are also various brassicas we could grow - but we don't. Nor carrots (wrong soil), turnips, onions..

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  6. Concur on getting the soil analyzed. They do it for free down here.

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  7. Cereal rye has an alleopathic effect on the soil, for the positive. Oats have a beneficial soil effect as well. Rye is liable to survive a mild winter and have to be killed off in the spring

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