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Monday, October 28, 2024

Sometimes, you just have to spend the money and buy new hardware

As several readers predicted, there is a new stove in the future (the very near future) of the ERJ household.

The "universal" safety valve showed up. I had it installed in about 30 minutes. It lit and turned off like a dream. However, the flames were orange and 18" long.

Back to the internet.

This site said to turn the air-shutter to full-open and to make sure that the orifice cover was turned counter-clockwise so it was in firm contact with the bottom of the burner tube to tune the safety-valve/burner-tube for LP use.

The flames might have been only 16" long but they were still too-rich. There was just too much gas emitting from the safety valve.

Mrs ERJ suggested that I had experienced enough frustration to meet my quota for October. A little humility is good for the soul, or so she says

In a few minutes we shall sally-forth to yon big-box store and Mrs ERJ shall pick out my 2024 Christmas present.

My only regret is that I don't have Glen Filthie's personal phone number. I would have loved to consult with him. By his own testimony, he is a world-class expert on excessive amounts of gas. Between the two of us I am sure we could have wrung another 19 years out of the stove.

14 comments:

  1. Roll it out to an outdoor kitchen as a hot weather cooking area?

    Deal with the vagaries of the flame adjustment later?

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    1. Not a bad idea!

      The burners on top work like a champ. It would be a nice stove for "canning" and I could feed it with 20lb tanks.

      Thanks for suggesting it.

      -ERJ

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    2. If I ever get a new stove, I need to remember that.

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  2. Skip that newfangled gas stuff.
    https://www.lehmans.com/product/perfection-kerosene-cookstove-with-oven/

    Or go sustainable:
    https://www.lehmans.com/product/pioneer-princess-wood-cookstove/


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    1. I could be a wise-elbow and make a witty reply. But the fact of the matter is that if things get sporky there will NOT be enough waking hours to get even 80% of what needs to be done, done.

      My plan is to ride convenience and technology as long as I can while I develop "rocket stoves" and other parallel technologies.

      The good news, if you can call it that, is that all of the zombies staring at their electronic devices will be at a loss for what to do with their time. "Here, stir this", "Throw more sticks into it when the flames die down", "Let it boil for 30 minutes and then take the jars out" and so on.

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  3. Replace any questionable appliances now while replacements are available. When the inevitable collapse comes it will be nigh onto impossible.

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  4. All appliances now have about 5 year built-in end times as I found out. You just keep fixen' and fixen' until you give up and buy a new one, or go find one 50 years old and use it for another 50 years.---ken

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    1. Troy at the Big-Box said eight years...but, yeah. Since it is impossible to find "handy-men", if you are not "handy" then you toss it and buy another one.

      The igniter is the weak link that usually craps out. It is a $25 part and IF you can find a repair person it costs $90 to have him knock on your door and then some outrageous amount per hour afterward.

      The $90 pays for the overhead of the vehicle. 30% of the outrageous hourly rate goes to the firm, 30% goes to healthcare insurance, 40% goes to the technician's wages.

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  5. I am an expert on warm, moist loud gases Joe - as well as hot air. Can you poast some pics and particulars? It sounds like your stove isn’t metering right. How do you adjust the air/fuel mixture…?

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    1. I think it is related to the orifice size of the safety-valve. It is what it is. Obviously, there is no universal safety-valve.

      I could turn down the LP pressure at the regulator but then the burners would be low BTU.

      It is a moot issue at this point. Mrs ERJ bought me a new oven/stove for my Christmas present.

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  6. Just for edutainment purposes, open up one of the now superfluous gas valves. Do some napkin calculating and validate my opinion that most of the cost therein has been allocated to lawyers and insurance underwriters.
    Just a hunch,
    A little East of Paris

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    1. A competent and honest HVAC man is worth is weight in gold.

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  7. I think natural gas orifices are larger than LP orifi (?) for a given BTU. Could a nat gas piece have slipped in during the troubleshooting? Best of luck to you.

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