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| Crude death-rates from all forms of cancer for people age 25-through-54 |
I am not seeing it in the CDC data in terms of death-rates for younger people.
Is it any specific TYPE of cancer?
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| Crude death-rates from all forms of cancer for people age 25-through-54 |
I am not seeing it in the CDC data in terms of death-rates for younger people.
Is it any specific TYPE of cancer?
Not sure about death rates, lots of young people, under 30 get colon cancer addressed
ReplyDeleteHPV spread by anal intercourse and fried foods and no fiber in their diets
DeleteDon't forget higher rates of oral and throat cancers for analogous reasons.
DeleteJ
If the internet talking head tinfoil hats are correct, we're about to hit the edge of a cliff...
ReplyDeleteI'm noticing traffic. It's not as dense as it used to be. More 'better' days, last year was still a lot of 'worse' days.
A few comments occur to me...
ReplyDelete1. A range of 37.2 - 40.8, with 4 of the given years having no data, gives me pause. Having crunched a lot of data over the decades, I would be embarrassed to provide such paltry data to support either side of an argument.
2. My own experience of "turbo-cancer" was in 2022 starting with the "over-sixty" group going from "fine" to "diagnosed" to "DEAD" in 5 months or less. (My count was three deaths in my circle and validated by 5 more via another close associate who is more sociable.)
3. It is only since January 2024 that I am running into the middle-aged suddenly showing up with the issue. (Six immediately come to mind.) Mainly women, generally cancers of breast, intestine, ovaries, and uterus. Not getting a clear picture on men because, as we all know, we don't talk about such things.
In any event, I believe the data sequence is delimited to before the problem emerging. And, because of the way the CDC works, it will be three years before we can have the data - - if at all.
The CDC is certainly not the organization of excellence that is was back in the day. (pre-1982)
DaPerfessor
I chose to "black out" 2020 and 2021 because Covid restrictions limited "elective" procedures like biospies and lower GI exams. It was a very weird time.
DeleteShort time between diagnosis and death is not a recent thing. Michael Landon (actor) was diagnosed with cancer in April of 1991 and died July 1. He would have died even sooner of DVT but the surgery to relieve that was successful.
I'll give you 2020 & 2021, but very grudgingly, as lack of biopsies and lower GI exams have limited impact on overall cancer deaths. For YEARS since...
DeleteI am also aware that "death from cancer" numbers have generally diminished from back then since chemo and radiation have allowed the final certified cause of death to be obscured by a sequela of treatment.
Short time between diagnosis and decease (a la Landon) is also true. It was actually common for those diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. In many cases 3-4 weeks from diagnosis to death. (In the late '70's, I often rotated from working nursing staff in ER and ICU to the oncology ward for a week or two to "catch my breath". I have seen this up close.)
However...this was again in the over-50 cohort BUT they had been feeling like crap for 6 months + before. That generation was slow to run to the doctor if they felt poorly.
I am not arguing with you raising the issue. I am just noting that the data is not yet in.
I certainly hope that such a problem does not surface for deeply personal reasons.
DaPerfessor
Due to the above mentioned reasons that specific cause death is often obscured, I'd look at total death rates per age cohort and at "excess deaths" to see if we see a change.
DeleteIn addition to cancer, there are other issues that are seen as/ could be vaccine related.
One of my coworkers has had heart problems diagnosed as vaccine related. Another has been assiduous in getting every booster AND has been in generally poor health since the vaccine came available.
Jonathan
This discussion of statistics is above my pay grade, but one thing I am aware of is we have a climate-change type situation, in that the data itself is w0nky. How many motor cycle accidents have the riders cause of death as Covid? Not zero, I can tell you that!
DeleteMy father died due to complications from MRSA, but 'cancer' was listed as probable cause of death. He'd been cancer free for 20 years. Cancer got the credit in the certificate from the state.
You don't hate them enough. Really don't.
All causes death-rate for mid-20s to mid-50 was 236.4 in 2018, 235.5 in 2019, 284.9(!) in 2022 and 260.3 in 2023.
DeleteYes, the turbo cancers are lymph, blood brain and the liver/spleen/bile duct/lower intestine/colon.
ReplyDeleteOne person isn't data, but our ex-pastor, mid 40's, sudden onset of very fast growing pancreatic / spleen / liver tumors within a few months after the vax.
DeleteRaw death-rate for those cancers in 2018 was 15.6, 2019 was 15.2, 2022 was 15.1 and 2023 was 14.9. Age group was the same mid-20s to mid-50s.
DeleteStatistics for the win!!! or is that an example of another Mark Twain quote?? ;)
DeleteWhat I am seeing is the common cancers occurring in younger age groups. It is not like it is a flood of people but enough that you notice and wonder what is going on. We always have patients with bad luck (bad genes, lifestyle etc) but that has always been uncommon. Now it is more common though still rare.
ReplyDeletehttps://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=~USA
ReplyDeleteFor those interested in professional analysis of Covid vaccine cancers there is no one better.
ReplyDeletehttps://x.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1927802257988260049
Second this.
DeleteThis might interest you.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/another-spike-in-the-vaccine-coffin/
"I am not seeing it in the CDC data..." There it is... There's the problem... You trust the CDC...
ReplyDeleteNot cancer, just death: https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/japan-releases-bombshell-vax-vs-unvax
ReplyDeleteStill, sorta on topic.