tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post7811867874040755569..comments2024-03-28T23:36:14.807-04:00Comments on Eaton Rapids Joe: Pulling cars out of ditchesEaton Rapids Joehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09102166969915526172noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-79266615835360447562020-10-27T16:58:26.559-04:002020-10-27T16:58:26.559-04:00IF the loader has brackets for chains from the fac...IF the loader has brackets for chains from the factory (which I doubt, likely either the attachment is aftermarket or someone welded hooks to it) they are for LIFTING rather than pulling. B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-77756806588565283882020-10-27T12:30:40.808-04:002020-10-27T12:30:40.808-04:00My experience with activities such as this are tha...My experience with activities such as this are that with a tractor go slow. Low gear at idle or just above is safest. The peak torque is near the bottom of the torque range. It either will have enough traction and power to move the other vehicle or not. If you get the towed vehicle moving and it hits a snag, you have plenty of time to dump the clutch if you have successfully resisted the temptation to go wide open with the throttle. Most farm tractors have more power than they can use at the wheels because they are designed to operate power attachments. You are after the torque anyways because that is the leverage that moves the wheels initially.<br /><br />Now, with a 4x4 and a snatch strap then momentum us king. All cars and trucks have massive amounts of power not needed nor are you able to put that power to the ground. Momentum or the accumulated kinetic energy of your vehicle's motion then released via an elastic strap will apply that multiple of your normal ft lbs of energy to the stuck vehicle all at once sometimes with very destructive results of the end of the strap is not attached to the proper spot either a frame or other solid bit.<br /><br />Glenda T Goodehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01124547784959889077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-88202196771160480772020-10-27T09:30:59.773-04:002020-10-27T09:30:59.773-04:00You raise an important point--hook to the draw bar...You raise an important point--hook to the draw bar and not to the 3PH attachment. That 3PH hook up unbalances the tractor and it's easy to do as I can fess up doing it myself on occasion because it's easier than bending over to get under it. Your loader points are well taken also. I never broke anything by overloading the loader but I moved a lot of rocks out of fence rows a couple of years ago and ended up getting the front differential of my J D rebuilt because of it. The coupling on the shaft is as hard as the spline of the differential so you end up replacing the expensive part also instead of just the cheap, easy part. Hauling logs in forks attached to the loader didn't help any either I suspect. --kencoyoteken48https://www.blogger.com/profile/06182514695395380561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-88322187532714989092020-10-27T09:13:54.900-04:002020-10-27T09:13:54.900-04:00If you are going to pull using forward gears, just...If you are going to pull using forward gears, just remember to use the swinging drawbar, not the drawbar attached to a 3PH.<br /><br />The frame for a loader should be plenty strong enough, and put the point of force application close to the center of the tractor. Which puts the force on both axles. My Kubota would hit the limit of the hydraulics on the loader before it hurt the axles.ruralcounselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09193188081686431709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-523798643826763672020-10-27T08:34:56.792-04:002020-10-27T08:34:56.792-04:00That would probably work fine. Having a heavy loa...That would probably work fine. Having a heavy loader like that would enable you to put some up-lift on something stuck, in this case a car, and "wiggle" it out of the mud to pull it out. If it can be done without tearing up the bumper and cowling. I use that technique for snaking logs out of the woods. Doing it a lot can cost you a drive shaft and differential spline and axel U joints for the front end though. They don't make those parts very tough. ---ken coyoteken48https://www.blogger.com/profile/06182514695395380561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-7683781390425259882020-10-27T08:20:00.694-04:002020-10-27T08:20:00.694-04:00The tractor has a front-end loader with a hay spea...The tractor has a front-end loader with a hay spear on the front. The loader has brackets with slots for chains. I my plan had been to "V" with the ends of the chain to the chain-slots brackets on the loader.<br /><br />I assumed that if Kubota put brackets designed to accept logging chains they put enough beef into the loader and frame to support them.Eaton Rapids Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09102166969915526172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-57455239679818572592020-10-27T07:36:41.520-04:002020-10-27T07:36:41.520-04:00Front axles are engineered to hold up the front an...Front axles are engineered to hold up the front and steer it, not as a hitch point.<br /><br />It would be pretty easy to engineer a new front hitch attachment point, but rigging it using stock existing metal - ungood.<br />markshere2https://www.blogger.com/profile/16168054097485759501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-5825075136648484762020-10-26T22:36:29.107-04:002020-10-26T22:36:29.107-04:00CoyoteKen is correct.
Pulling in reverse puts a ...CoyoteKen is correct. <br /><br />Pulling in reverse puts a hard load on the front axle. You can break a front axle pulling too hard.<br /><br />Pull from the rear, at just above idle, pulling from the drawbar, and you should never have an issue. Level-ish only. <br /><br />B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2970975545475697571.post-23990839080789125632020-10-26T21:11:03.990-04:002020-10-26T21:11:03.990-04:00I have been driving tractors for about 60 years an...I have been driving tractors for about 60 years and I have never had the front of a tractor raise if the pull was on a level, or nearly so, surface and the hitch was properly made on the drawbar which itself was in the proper towing position. I have know other men, and known of other men that were killed or injured by back-flipping tractors but in every case the hitch was improper or the pull was being made up a steep hill. And as you did always do the hard pull at idle or just above with your hand always on the throttle. Never rev it. The article struck me as being more academic theory that real life experience. --ken coyoteken48https://www.blogger.com/profile/06182514695395380561noreply@blogger.com